Julian Foad wrote on 2018-09-14: > TL;DR: Is [an obvious-looking address] the root of the problem? Need > [-public and -private variants of said address]?
Can anyone second this proposal or otherwise comment on it? -- - Julian [...] > Another non-private email recently came to private@, and the originator > referred to sending email "to the PMCs". I don't know but > suspect that they emailed [an obvious-looking address] in order to > email "the PMCs". That sounds like a recipe for confusion. > > I discovered that in 2005 a resolution [3] was passed to rename all the > mailing lists formerly called "p...@project.apache.org" (which were > already private) to "priv...@project.apache.org" and to use these only > for strictly private matters. This resolution is incorporated in the PMC > Required Policies [2] and referred to in [1]. > > However, [an obvious-looking address] escaped the renaming and [...] > should therefore only be used for strictly > private matters, which is not suggested by its name. People aren't > easily going to learn that. It seems to me it would be a good idea to > rename [it to have a "-private" suffix]. > > For matters which we wish to address to PMCs but need not be private, we > should have some other [obvious-looking address]? This should point to each > project's most appropriate public mailing list. This would be "dev@" for > Apache Subversion and probably for most projects, while any project > could potentially use a public list that is separate from their dev list > if they wished (although I vaguely recall recommendations to keep both > kinds of discussions together for the sake of community over code). > > Although this is a fairly infrequent and individually small matter, it > appears to be causing unintended contraventions of the ASF policies and > I feel it contributes negatively to the Way by habituating people to > discussing matters in private. > > Thoughts, anyone? Is this something we could improve, perhaps quite easily? > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#confidential > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#mailing-list-private > [3] https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Rename_pmc_lists_to_private.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
