On 12/11/2017 8:49 AM, Branko Čibej wrote:
The vast majority of volunteers at ASF projects are not members and
cannot even see the archives of those lists.
Agreed. I was trying to think through a public list, a private list and then a way for people to get very private help. Some minor rewrites to move things forward:


Some Advice about Volunteering:

- Volunteering starts at home: Don't give more than you can afford to give.

- Volunteering doesn't mean unprofessional: Volunteers don't lower their standard just because we aren't paid!

- Volunteers have lives and jobs: Don't over commit and ask for help EARLY if you are overwhelmed, get sick, or just need more assistance.

- Volunteerism and burn out are real issues: If you need help, there are lots of members here who understand your pain.  Don't be afraid to ask for it!  Reach out to <list to be determined> for public input, board-priv...@apache.org for a more private discussion, or just reach out to another member 1:1.

Please don't suffer in silence.  We are all a big Apache family and we are here to help!



Regards,
KAM

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