Hi Toki

It's interesting how you jump in every time we talk about trouble at OpenOffice. I know, that you and some LibreOffice guys want to see Apache OpenOffice dead. If we are so bad, you should better ask your self, why you don't manage to take over the Apache OpenOffice users in all this years. Why LibreOffice lose users like the City of Munich. I'm sure you have answares, but I'm also sure that you will see the problem all outside LibreOffice. LibreOffice also lose a load of traction. Now days you have only 1/5 of the activity on the dev ML as you have in good times. You also lost payed devs in the past. At the moment you are in better condition, yes. But it doesn't give you the right to spread FUD over Apache OpenOffice. Thanks!

Am .04.2017, 07:03 Uhr, schrieb toki <toki.kant...@gmail.com>:

On 04/19/2017 09:26 PM, Andy Wenk wrote:

* are there problems in the community - especially among the developers?

What has happened to Apache OpenOffice was been entirely predictably.

Oracle's offer checked all of the boxes for ensuring that a project
would have no developer support.

* is OpenOffice not competitive any more compared to Microsoft Office?
* is OpenOffice not competitive any more compared to Google Docs and similar tools?

It would be more accurate to say that LibreOffice has picked up the
goodwill, and cachet that OpenOffice.org had.

* are the download numbers correct?

Between 2015-10-01 and 2016-06-30 there were 29,137,880 downloads of
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2
Between 2017-01-01 and 2017-04-19 there were 10,748,967 downloads of
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3

In as much as these figures are from SourceForge, they probably are
reasonably accurate. The big unknown is how many of these are "failed
downloads".

OTOH, things like the number of downloads from Cuba, San Marino, Monaco,
and The Holy See, imply that there is an issue with either failed
downloads, or accurate geolocation, or accurately counting of the downloads.

* do you have an idea about the acceptance of OpenOffice in the wide world (marketing. press and so on)?

Compare https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/professional-support/ with
https://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html

jonathon

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