On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Peter West <p...@pbw.id.au> wrote:

> The ASF has free software, freely produced by anyone who wants to put his
> or her hand up.  Talk about “diversity” is deeply divisive, and all of the
> BS that accompanies it is the antithesis of freedom.  It is the impulse of
> petty totalitarians who are determined to impose their views on others, and
> to marginalise and denigrate and demonise those who think…diversely. Need I
> mention Brendan Eich here?
>


Peter,

Please refrain from characterizing people like me as petty totalitarians
just because I like to find out why ASF doesn't attract a representative
sample of the population of computer scientists. I am not trying to
marginalize or denigrate, but you, on the other hand, are clearly being
pretty insulting.


>
> So keep this stuff out of the ASF, please.  You are free to pursue
> whatever other (non-software) obsessions you like in your own time, and
> those big software houses with their diversity departments will accomodate
> you at work.
>

I am very tempted to be really rude here.

Let me just say that I am not trying to impose anything on you and trying
to understand what brings people to Apache and what keeps them away is a
key step in community building.

I suppose that I should add that your attitude is illuminating on the
problem of what keeps people away.

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