Two small comments:

Ross Gardler wrote on 10/25/16 10:19 AM:
> First, I'm tired of hearing it too but let's not be fooled, most of
> the time it comes from people ill informed about how the ASF works.
> 
> We use social controls within the projects and we have a fully
> independent board to handle escalations should a community member
> feel that their (or anothers) merit not be recognized.
> 
> If this is breaking down then its a problem within the PMC not with
> the process, which has served us well for many years across many
> projects and should, IMHO, serve us well for many more. Rather than
> starting to look for a solution to a problem purebred by others
> perhaps we should look at why they have this perception.

Part of this issue is lack of easily consumable and definitive
information on how our governance models work.  Yes, we have some public
documentation, but it's scattered, inconsistent, and much of it is not
very friendly to newcomers.  There are a lot of bits of tribal knowledge
that some of us understand intuitively, but that aren't actually written
clearly enough to communicate them broadly.

Obviously, some people won't read this stuff anyway.  But at least
having a better set of URLs that we can send out to point to our
corporate policies, user stories, or even metrics would go a long way in
making it easier for us to respond to newcomers with a consistent set of
stable information.

...snip...
> Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote on 10/25/16 3:50 AM:
...snip...
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- Shane


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