On 26.09.2015 16:16, Pierre Smits wrote: > Branko, > > I am not talking about walls, only about removing confusion from > definitions.
The question that I keep repeating that you haven't answered is: whose confusion? Can you show that people are actually confused by our current definitions? Are *you* confused by them? > A contributor can be user, as much as he/she can choose not to > be a user. Similarly, a developer of project A contributing (in whatever > form) to project B can be someone who doesn't use (benefits from) the works > of project B. > > I never mentioned that a user can't be a contributor. Maybe you should read > my suggestions again. > The distinctions I made were: > > - user = person or organisation benefiting from the works of the project > .... > - contributor = person contributing ... > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > http://oem.ofbizci.net > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On 26.09.2015 14:45, Pierre Smits wrote: >>> It is all about removing potential confusion and sending clear messages. >>> >>> *re: user* >>> A user benefits from the contributions. He/she or them (the organisation) >>> can happily do so without ever interacting with a projects community. >> They >>> may even be a subscriber to any or all mailing lists of the ASF without >>> ever posting anything to a mailing list. They may also enhance the works >> of >>> a project without sharing it with the project. Hence the part about users >>> contributing should removed from the definition. >> You've not said *why* you think that users can't be contributors. That's >> totally at odds with the inclusive communities we're trying to build >> here. A developer can also be a user, a user can also be a contributor. >> The roles *do* overlap and that's what the current definitions describe. >> Which of course does not meant that they *have* to overlap in any >> particular case. >> >> It ain't broken so don't try to fix it. You're the first person I've >> ever heard of who thinks there should be a wall between users and >> developers. >> >> -- Brane >> >>
