Branko, I am not talking about walls, only about removing confusion from definitions. A contributor can be user, as much as he/she can choose not to be a user. Similarly, a developer of project A contributing (in whatever form) to project B can be someone who doesn't use (benefits from) the works of project B.
I never mentioned that a user can't be a contributor. Maybe you should read my suggestions again. The distinctions I made were: - user = person or organisation benefiting from the works of the project .... - contributor = person contributing ... Best regards, Pierre Smits *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote: > On 26.09.2015 14:45, Pierre Smits wrote: > > It is all about removing potential confusion and sending clear messages. > > > > *re: user* > > A user benefits from the contributions. He/she or them (the organisation) > > can happily do so without ever interacting with a projects community. > They > > may even be a subscriber to any or all mailing lists of the ASF without > > ever posting anything to a mailing list. They may also enhance the works > of > > a project without sharing it with the project. Hence the part about users > > contributing should removed from the definition. > > You've not said *why* you think that users can't be contributors. That's > totally at odds with the inclusive communities we're trying to build > here. A developer can also be a user, a user can also be a contributor. > The roles *do* overlap and that's what the current definitions describe. > Which of course does not meant that they *have* to overlap in any > particular case. > > It ain't broken so don't try to fix it. You're the first person I've > ever heard of who thinks there should be a wall between users and > developers. > > -- Brane > >