agreed niclas that tools are secondary;   but deploying websites is just a
hassle that steals cycles from that heroic group of folks who would rather
be spending their time writing awesome docs  :)

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote:

> We (developers) always discuss tools for making documentation easier. But
> we (developers) will always cite another hurdle (with tools) for not
> contributing more to documentation. In a lot of cases, it doesn't matter
> how easy the tools become, it is still the same heroic lot of people whoc
> write the docs. Doesn't matter if that is HTML, xdoc. Anakia, docbook,
> Maven text, Asciidoc, CMSes, Wiki, Jekyll or gh-pages. The unwilling will
> always be able to raise a reason why he can't contribute...
>
> And as a rather active doc writer, I am happy when receiving contributions
> in any form, such as email on mailing list, big or small, and I'll gladly
> put that in myself. I'd probably be happy with an audio contribution as
> well. It isn't the typing that is the hard part, it is coming up with the
> accurate Content.
>
> My 2 cents to this never ending debate... ;-)
>
> Cheers
> Niclas
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Owen O'Malley <omal...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> This looks good.
> > >>
> > >> So do I understand any of the commiters editing the site would still
> > >> need to run Jekyll manually and push (how?), or is there a GitHub like
> > >> autobuild?
> > >>
> > >
> > > It is manual, so it isn't as easy as github pages. However, I find that
> > > generally I want to run jekyll locally first anyways to debug my
> changes.
> > >
> >
> > FWIW, GitHub pages is pretty easy to debug (non-local): push to
> > gh-pages in a fork, before doing a PR against the gh-pages branch. If
> > ASF ever did provide automated rendering, this is one reason I'd want
> > it to be gh-pages compatible (because users who don't/can't have the
> > build tools locally, can still make helpful contributions).
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
>



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jay vyas

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