On 03/02/2015 01:11, "jan i" <j...@apache.org> wrote:

>We should really make that clear to people, I strongly believe the general
>opinion is  non-project talks are not welcome. I base this on the fact
>that
>a number of talks for Denver and Budapest was rejected for being too
>company like.

Having been a reviewer for both last years events I would say that the
issue was not that there were talks that were too company like but that
there were some talks that looked to be pure product pitches which as I
understood it was not the style of content desired.

Talks from an enterprise/company perspective e.g. use cases,
implementation and deployment experiences, integration efforts, how to
adopt Apache Foo, how Apache Bar can save you money etc. are great and
exactly the kind of content we want to attract a wider non-Apache audience
and are most certainly welcome but relatively few of these actually get
submitted.  This is partly because the CFP is primarily marketed within
the ASF where people have an understanding that they participate as
individuals and not as companies so people tend to submit talks about the
ASF and its projects.

However talks that are just product pitches i.e. here's our commercial
product we built with all this open source and now want to sell you are
the types of talks that shift ApacheCon from being a technical conference
to being a business/marketing conference which kinda jars with the goals
of the ASF.

So however it gets marketed in future we need to strike the right balance
such that we don't turn it into just another marketing conference while
finding ways to attract a broader audience

Rob




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