+1
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
> <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> Site dev is just a convenience list. There is no committee backing it. ComDev 
> is the right place.
> 
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Daniel Gruno<mailto:humbed...@apache.org>
> Sent: ‎1/‎15/‎2015 7:49 AM
> To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: New ComDev VM
> 
> Hi Louis,
> Yes, I have discussed with my VP, and he does not have any interest
> whatsoever in infra maintaining the projects site, which is why I
> instead turned to comdev as a sponsor.
> 
> projects.apache.org is just as much about getting new people to
> participate in our community (by finding projects they can join) as it
> is about "showing what we've got", so it felt only natural to ask the
> community development project to take over.
> 
> site-dev may be listed as one option, but it is hardly used anymore, sadly.
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel.
> On 2015-01-15 16:42, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>> Daniel,
>> One thing—Apache’s Infra page lists site-dev@ for overhauls that seem to be 
>> like what you are proposing. See
>> 
>> "site-dev@ The site-dev list was formed to allow for discussion of every 
>> aspect of the small number of websites that are centrally managed by the ASF 
>> (e.g. /dev/) and for co-ordination of infrastructure needs and publishing 
>> methods for all ASF project websites. Participation in these lists is NOT 
>> limited to committers, but rather to any committer or interested party 
>> invited by a committer (please would the committer send email to 
>> site-dev-owner). The list is normally low volume and aims to discsuss all 
>> aspects of the websites, from creation tools through to look and feel.” at 
>> http://apache.org/dev/infra-mail.html.
>> 
>> Doubtless, you’ve already gone over this…
>> louis
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Jan 2015, at 03:07, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hiya folks,
>>> as part of trying out the new projects site, I have set up a VM inside our 
>>> infrastructure for us to use.
>>> the VM is called projects-vm.apache.org and is tied to LDAP much like 
>>> people.apache.org is these days, thus you will need to have your public ssh 
>>> key in your LDAP profile in order to gain access. If you do have that set 
>>> up, and would like to access to the machine (some of you already have 
>>> access, others don't), just send me a line and I'll open up access for you.
>>> 
>>> The projects VM is set up to serve content via httpd, but only to the 
>>> TLS-terminator nyx-ssl.apache.org (thus you will get a 403 Denied if you 
>>> visit the VM's web site directly). To get to the test site, use 
>>> https://projects-new.apache.org/ . Similar, to try out the (very simple) 
>>> editing features, use https://projects-new.apache.org/edit/ (requires your 
>>> LDAP username+password and allows you to edit data for those projects where 
>>> you are on the PMC).
>>> 
>>> If you try out the editing features, do not that every edit you do will 
>>> generate an email with the new project data and send it to 
>>> dev@community.a.o, as a review measure.
>>> 
>>> I hope this will make it easier for people to jump in and help with 
>>> creating the site :)
>>> 
>>> With regards,
>>> Daniel.
>>> 
>>> On 2015-01-14 18:53, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>>>> Daniel,
>>>> 
>>>> There is no "assuming" just do it :-)
>>>> 
>>>> You have a number of ComDev PMC members saying +1, and you are a PMC 
>>>> member yourself. Let's have the code where we can start working on it and 
>>>> let's get it to feature parity with projects.apache.org ASAP. I agree with 
>>>> Rich that there is value in this already.
>>>> 
>>>> This is not to exclude the much broader OfBiz proposal, but it looks to me 
>>>> like this solution is close to being ready to go as a replacement for 
>>>> projects.apache.org and I already see some simple improvements I can make 
>>>> in a coffee break at work :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Ross
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Daniel Gruno [mailto:humbed...@apache.org]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 9:43 AM
>>>> To: dev@community.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2015-01-14 18:37, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>> Just as a note for the sake of truth, OFBiz has Content component
>>>>> http://projects.apache.pw/projects.html?category#content
>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/doap_OFBiz.rdf disagrees ;-) but, assuming this 
>>>> gets accepted into comdev, you needn't worry about doap files any longer, 
>>>> as you will be able to edit it online instead.
>>>> 
>>>> With regards,
>>>> Daniel.
>>>> 
>>>>> I very like what I saw, kudos!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 14/01/2015 12:48, Daniel Gruno a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> I was having a conversation with Rich (Bowen) some weeks ago, and the
>>>>>> sentiment was that our projects page ( projects.apache.org
>>>>>> <http://projects.apache.org> ) could use a big overhaul. It's
>>>>>> outdated, not very user friendly, doesn't really compile the data
>>>>>> into anything useful (mostly just displays "raw" data) and it's
>>>>>> difficult to navigate (no search abilities, no actual overviews).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Therefore, I propose that the community development project takes
>>>>>> over this project from Infra, which has no interest in
>>>>>> continuing/maintaining it, and revamps it with both a new site design
>>>>>> and a new LDAP/JSON-based information system which would enable
>>>>>> people to edit their project details online without having to
>>>>>> upload/change RDF files when something happens. This would also mean
>>>>>> that everything could be rendered in the browser instead of relying
>>>>>> on daily cron jobs to compile the page, and also allow us to add some
>>>>>> inspiring/interesting graphical charts and overviews/timelines.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have been working on a proposal that follows these ideas, which is
>>>>>> available for preview at http://projects.apache.pw/ for those
>>>>>> interested. Only the first two tabs in the menu currently work (and
>>>>>> the extensive search feature), but that is still most of what the old
>>>>>> site has and then some. I am pondering on moving some of the front
>>>>>> page stuff to the 'Timelines' tab instead, feedback is appreciated on
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, comments, feedback, questions, anything is most welcome,
>>>>>> especially comments on whether you:
>>>>>> 1) think comdev should be responsible for the projects directory
>>>>>> 2) think the proposal looks good/swell/nifty/whatever.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A few notes on the search feature:
>>>>>> - You can search for virtually anything within a project, types,
>>>>>> languages, descriptions, bug-trackers etc
>>>>>> - Try typing your committer ID or Apache ID into the box, and it will
>>>>>> show all projects you are a part of
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If there is consensus for moving this into comdev framework and
>>>>>> collaborating on this, I will commit the proposal to a sub-folder in
>>>>>> the comdev svn repository and ask infra for a VM where we can set
>>>>>> this up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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