Hi Louis,
Yes, I have discussed with my VP, and he does not have any interest
whatsoever in infra maintaining the projects site, which is why I
instead turned to comdev as a sponsor.
projects.apache.org is just as much about getting new people to
participate in our community (by finding projects they can join) as it
is about "showing what we've got", so it felt only natural to ask the
community development project to take over.
site-dev may be listed as one option, but it is hardly used anymore, sadly.
With regards,
Daniel.
On 2015-01-15 16:42, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
Daniel,
One thing—Apache’s Infra page lists site-dev@ for overhauls that seem to be
like what you are proposing. See
"site-dev@ The site-dev list was formed to allow for discussion of every aspect
of the small number of websites that are centrally managed by the ASF (e.g. /dev/)
and for co-ordination of infrastructure needs and publishing methods for all ASF
project websites. Participation in these lists is NOT limited to committers, but
rather to any committer or interested party invited by a committer (please would the
committer send email to site-dev-owner). The list is normally low volume and aims to
discsuss all aspects of the websites, from creation tools through to look and feel.”
at http://apache.org/dev/infra-mail.html.
Doubtless, you’ve already gone over this…
louis
On 15 Jan 2015, at 03:07, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
Hiya folks,
as part of trying out the new projects site, I have set up a VM inside our
infrastructure for us to use.
the VM is called projects-vm.apache.org and is tied to LDAP much like
people.apache.org is these days, thus you will need to have your public ssh key
in your LDAP profile in order to gain access. If you do have that set up, and
would like to access to the machine (some of you already have access, others
don't), just send me a line and I'll open up access for you.
The projects VM is set up to serve content via httpd, but only to the
TLS-terminator nyx-ssl.apache.org (thus you will get a 403 Denied if you visit
the VM's web site directly). To get to the test site, use
https://projects-new.apache.org/ . Similar, to try out the (very simple)
editing features, use https://projects-new.apache.org/edit/ (requires your LDAP
username+password and allows you to edit data for those projects where you are
on the PMC).
If you try out the editing features, do not that every edit you do will
generate an email with the new project data and send it to dev@community.a.o,
as a review measure.
I hope this will make it easier for people to jump in and help with creating
the site :)
With regards,
Daniel.
On 2015-01-14 18:53, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
Daniel,
There is no "assuming" just do it :-)
You have a number of ComDev PMC members saying +1, and you are a PMC member
yourself. Let's have the code where we can start working on it and let's get it
to feature parity with projects.apache.org ASAP. I agree with Rich that there
is value in this already.
This is not to exclude the much broader OfBiz proposal, but it looks to me like
this solution is close to being ready to go as a replacement for
projects.apache.org and I already see some simple improvements I can make in a
coffee break at work :-)
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Gruno [mailto:humbed...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 9:43 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal
On 2015-01-14 18:37, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Just as a note for the sake of truth, OFBiz has Content component
http://projects.apache.pw/projects.html?category#content
http://ofbiz.apache.org/doap_OFBiz.rdf disagrees ;-) but, assuming this gets
accepted into comdev, you needn't worry about doap files any longer, as you
will be able to edit it online instead.
With regards,
Daniel.
I very like what I saw, kudos!
Jacques
Le 14/01/2015 12:48, Daniel Gruno a écrit :
Hi folks,
I was having a conversation with Rich (Bowen) some weeks ago, and the
sentiment was that our projects page ( projects.apache.org
<http://projects.apache.org> ) could use a big overhaul. It's
outdated, not very user friendly, doesn't really compile the data
into anything useful (mostly just displays "raw" data) and it's
difficult to navigate (no search abilities, no actual overviews).
Therefore, I propose that the community development project takes
over this project from Infra, which has no interest in
continuing/maintaining it, and revamps it with both a new site design
and a new LDAP/JSON-based information system which would enable
people to edit their project details online without having to
upload/change RDF files when something happens. This would also mean
that everything could be rendered in the browser instead of relying
on daily cron jobs to compile the page, and also allow us to add some
inspiring/interesting graphical charts and overviews/timelines.
I have been working on a proposal that follows these ideas, which is
available for preview at http://projects.apache.pw/ for those
interested. Only the first two tabs in the menu currently work (and
the extensive search feature), but that is still most of what the old
site has and then some. I am pondering on moving some of the front
page stuff to the 'Timelines' tab instead, feedback is appreciated on
this.
So, comments, feedback, questions, anything is most welcome,
especially comments on whether you:
1) think comdev should be responsible for the projects directory
2) think the proposal looks good/swell/nifty/whatever.
A few notes on the search feature:
- You can search for virtually anything within a project, types,
languages, descriptions, bug-trackers etc
- Try typing your committer ID or Apache ID into the box, and it will
show all projects you are a part of
If there is consensus for moving this into comdev framework and
collaborating on this, I will commit the proposal to a sub-folder in
the comdev svn repository and ask infra for a VM where we can set
this up.
With regards,
Daniel.