Hi Dennis,

On Dec 29, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> Funny, your conclusion is exactly contrary to my reasoning.  
> 
> It strikes me that you are talking about extending the decentralized 
> governance of the org.apache.oodt.* namespace (i.e., the ability to add 
> branches and new types) to an external effort that, coincidentally, happens 
> to be conducted by a member of the Apache OODT project and not within the 
> structure of the project itself.

No, that's not what I'm proposing. I'm proposing to use Apache Extras, a 
supposedly sanctioned
"associated" and not "external" effort that supposedly is amenable (per its own 
explanation page
that I've cited several times and won't bother doing again) to libraries and 
licenses outside of 
the normal ALv2 process to host closely related Apache OODT code there and to 
leverage 
the org.apache.oodt namespace as part of it.

Mark Struberg had another concrete suggestion: kudos to him for proposing using 
org.apachextras.oodt (implied). I could live with that, but don't believe I (or 
anyone else)
should have to.

> 
> It is ok for you to have a plugin there.  And you can certainly use 
> org.apache.oodt.* types in the manner in which they are established by Apache 
> OODT. 

I'm not even sure what you're saying in terms of using "org.apache.oodt.* 
types". If you mean 
using "interfaces" published by the org.apache.oodt namespace, then yes, I 
agree. The plugins 
that I'm talking about are concrete Java class implementations of the OODT CAS 
PushPull Protocol 
interface. 

> 
> I just don't think the ability to expand the namespace travels so easily.  
> Would you grant the same capability to someone who had no affiliation with 
> the Apache OODT project?

I'd rather not talk about hypotheticals (kudos to Sam Ruby for teaching me 
that) and focus instead
on what I'm actually proposing. 

Cheers,
Chris

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