Now that this year's program is done and there seemed to be consensus on the items below when discussed, can we get the proposals below reflected on the mentee ranking page [1] and other places as appropriate?
I don't have a cwiki account, but that can be fixed if needed :-) -Rahul [1] http://community.apache.org/mentee-ranking-process.html On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org> wrote: > I'd like to make a few comments about issues that have arisen during the > evaluation process for GSoC. I'm going to give my opinion on each, please > treat this as lazy consensus - do speak up if you wish to disagree or add > more items: > > Not enough visibility of the process > ==================================== > > There will always be someone who doesn't read the stuff we send out. Where > this is the case I don't think we should worry ourselves. > > Sending to PMCs (including the incubator PMC) is sufficient to reach people. > We don't want to send out to committers@ as the project as a whole needs to > be behind taking on a GSoC student. > > Reaching PPMCs is more problematic, I think we should continue to rely on > incubator mentors taking the message to their projects if they feel it is > appropriate. > > PROPOSAL > -------- > Make it explicit that incubator mentors should pass the message on to PPMCs > if appropriate. > > Marking experience mentors up > ============================= > > I really don't like the idea up to 2 points for having been a successful > mentor before, firstly it is error prone (e.g. both Bertrand and Luciano > have been mentors *and* admins, yet the admin this year was unaware of > that). Secondly, just because someone has mentored a student in the past > doesn't mean they will be better than another mentor. Finally, mentoring a > failing student is, in many ways, more educational than mentoring a > successful one. > > We already have "Does the mentor show an understanding of how to mentor a > student? (0-4 points)" - I'm more interested in whether the mentor knows > what is expected. However, applying this score is difficult. > > PROPOSAL > -------- > Remove "Has the mentor had a successful student in the past (0-2 points)" > from the admin rankings > > Add some docs to the ranking process about what admins are looking for with > respect to "oes the mentor show an understanding of how to mentor a student? > (0-4 points)" (Noirins mail with the subject Admin coordination to > alexei.fedotov on code-awards wouild be a good starting point) > > Original Ideas are good > ======================= > > Past experience has shown that if a student proposes their own idea and it > is accepted the student is going to be strong. > > PROPOSAL > -------- > > Add the following to the mentor ranking: > > Is the project definition and idea originally the mentee's, the > mentor's or a collaborative effort? (0-2 points, 2 if mentee's idea, 1 > if collaborative, 0 if mentor's) >
