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On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 8:24 PM Alex Herbert <alex.d.herb...@gmail.com>
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> On 05/04/2019 12:06, Gilles Sadowski wrote:
> >> On 05/04/2019 09:27, sebb wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 12:28, Rob Tompkins <chtom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> For those unfamiliar with MathJaX, is the javascript mechanism for
> accommodating for LaTeX (the math typesetting language, written by Donald
> Knuth) in html.
> >>>>
> >>>> It could be convenient to use mathematical notation in our javadoc
> generally. That said, Java doesn’t do this so it would indeed be
> non-standard. My opinion is in the +0.5 zone currently.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>> Is it likely that existing Javadoc comments will trigger MathJaX?
> >>> That would perhaps mean lots of changes just to stay still.
> >>>
> >>> What does it look like if JavaScript is not in use?
> >> Not very readable. Have a look at this page:
> > If one knows LaTeX somewhat, it's fairly readable.
> > Another advantage is that, within the source code, it is
> > more readable than the equivalent formula in HTML.
> > E.g. compare
> >    r<sub>1</sub>x<sub>1</sub>
> > with
> >    \( r_1 x_1 \)
>
> So this depends on the use case:
>
> Use case
>         LaTex
>         HTML
> Reading the Javadoc online      Nice equations. Needs Javascript enabled.
>
> Q. Is disabling Javascript common?
>         OK equations. No need for Javascript.
> Accessing the Javadoc in an IDE         No equations. Needs fluency in
> LaTeX.
> Can resort to viewing Javadocs in a browser (with Javscript).   OK
> equations.
> Reading the source code         No equations. Needs fluency in LaTeX. Can
> resort to viewing Javadocs in a browser (with Javscript).       Verbose
> HTML
> equations. Needs fluency in HTML. Can view Javadocs in an IDE/browser.
> Maintaining the source code     LaTex is easier to write complex equations.
>
> IDE cannot show the Javadoc.
>
> Javadoc tool cannot spot errors.
>
> Javadoc must be built and viewed locally before commit.
>         Verbose HTML equations. Some equations not easily possible without
> imagination.
>
> IDE can show the Javadoc for a quick check.
>
> Javadoc tool can spot errors so can be part of a series of checks for a PR.
>
>
> In the common use case I question if the disabling of Javascript in a
> browser is a common thing nowadays? Using LaTeX will be better. Someone
> who sees the pages without Javascript and raises a bug will be kindly
> directed towards enabling Javascript in their browser for the
> commons.apache.org host.
>
> In the developer use case then an IDE can support the HTML which is
> nice. It can be used for simple equations. For the LaTeX I think that a
> developer is quite capable of understanding what is going on and can
> open a browser to view the Javadoc if needed.
>
> For reading the source code it is the same as above. If you got this far
> then you can figure it out.
>
> In the source code maintainer use case then writing the HTML for a
> complex equation is more work than using LaTeX. But the equations cannot
> be checked by Javadoc. So the onus is on the developer who wants to use
> LaTeX to render the javadocs and make sure they look correct.
>
>
> So to allow MathJax in any commons project would require an explicit
> validation of the LaTeX that may be present in any PR or new commit.
>
> My vote is to enable via a profile (as Sebb suggested) and let the
> project developers decide if they want to maintain it.
>
>
> >>
> http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-math/javadocs/api-3.6.1/org/apache/commons/math3/analysis/polynomials/PolynomialsUtils.html
> >>
> >> Then turn off Javascript (e.g. [1]) and look again.
> >>
> >> An example non-javascript output for an equation (method
> >> createJacobiPolynomial(int, int, int)) is:
> >>
> >> \( P_0^{vw}(x) = 1 \\ P_{-1}^{vw}(x) = 0 \\ 2k(k + v + w)(2k + v + w -
> >> 2) P_k^{vw}(x) = \\ (2k + v + w - 1)[(2k + v + w)(2k + v + w - 2) x +
> >> v^2 - w^2] P_{k-1}^{vw}(x) \\ - 2(k + v - 1)(k + w - 1)(2k + v + w)
> >> P_{k-2}^{vw}(x) \)
> >>
> >>
> >> [1]
> https://www.lifewire.com/disable-javascript-in-google-chrome-4103631
> >>
> >>> I think it would be sensible for the processing to be optional, e.g.
> >>> via a marker file.
> > Not all projects might expect improvement with MathJaX; if so,
> > they should not use it.  But deactivating MathJaX when it is used
> > in the Javadoc does not seem very user-friendly (if the marker file
> > would not include the HTML snippet necessary to invoke the script).
> > Anyways, it seems to be a component-level decision.
> >
> > Gilles
> >
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