On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 7:14 AM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Thanks for all the replies.
> However, it seems that when a project could make use of the
> flexibility provided by modularization, there are objections
> to really embrace it:
>  * Some don't like a partial release
>  * Some don't like different version numbers
>  * Some don't like releasing codes at different levels of
>    "achievement"
>
> Clearly there is no consensus.
>
> IMHO, a particular useful feature of modularization is to
> allow the respective versions to reflect the actual state of
> the code contained in the corresponding module.
> Otherwise the (single) version is misleading for some of
> modules and meaningless for others.
>
> I can understand that version varying across modules requires
> careful attention; but is there a problem in principle?
> Won't tools such as Clirr readily spot failures to comply with
> compatibility requirements?
>
> Using again the practical example, and trying to mix and match
> opposite POVs, here is a suggestion.
>
> Release all "productive" functionality:
>  commons-rng-client-api -> 1.0
>  commons-rng-core       -> 1.0
>  commons-rng-simple     -> 1.0
>  commons-rng-sampling   -> 0.8
>
> Question for the latter (from the other thread):
> When "sampling v1.0" is released, can it break compatibility
> with "sampling v0.8" ?
>

I guess not. You could also remove any jar hell risk by packaging 0.8 in an
.alpha. package.

Gary


>
> Release code only useful for internal development (e.g.
> checking that a contribution does degrade performance),
> with a suffix that indicates so
>  commons-rng-jmh -> 1.0-dev
>
> There is no obligation to provide benchmarking code, is there?
> Publishing results on the web site is already much more than
> other components do.
>
> Release usage examples with a version number and suffix
> indicating that no comptatiblity is to be expected:
>  commons-rng-examples -> 0.0.1-beta
>
> [Is there a better "suffix"?]
>
> WDYT?
>
>
> Regards,
> Gilles
>
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2016 13:34:04 +0100, Jörg Schaible wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>
>> I think I'll tend towards agreeing with Jochen here, rather get half the
>>> modules out early than fight ourselves with versioning workarounds if the
>>> rest of the modules are not ready for prime time.
>>>
>>> However I see concerns of selective "part releases" and reproducible
>>> builds, so I would do this using Maven profiles - the release profile can
>>> have a smaller <modules> set.
>>>
>>> I then think all the modules that appear in the src release should also
>>> go
>>> to Nexus as binaries, even if they are more exotic "internal" modules. I
>>> would not mess around with selective deployment as it is a recipe for
>>> maintenance nightmare and manual mistakes.
>>>
>>> It only gets tricky if the leftover modules get a release cycle of their
>>> own.
>>>
>>> It is OK if the -bin release don't have all modules, that is more of a
>>> convenience of jars that are useful out of the box.
>>>
>>
>> The -src artifact is a different case. It should contain anything
>> independent of the published modules' artifacts (and it can, because it
>> depends on the file patterns in the assembly). It is always a hassle if
>> you
>> have no direct possibility to fetch the matching source of the examples
>> (and
>> even the JMH stuff) for an individual release. Directing users to GIT is
>> not
>> very convenient.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jörg
>>
>
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