You're right, of course.  "Indemnification" is not the right term.  And my 
point was not necessary, since you were not thinking of fewer votes, but 
relaxed requirements for the voters.

My apologies.
~Roger Whitcomb

-----Original Message-----
From: Gilles [mailto:gil...@harfang.homelinux.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:48 AM
To: dev@commons.apache.org
Subject: RE: [VOTE][RRESULT][RC1] Release Commons Math 3.6.1

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:51:21 +0000, Roger Whitcomb wrote:
> I believe the necessity of having 3 PMC votes for a release is an 
> Apache-wide requirement, having to do with project oversight, and 
> legal indemnification.

Indemnification???
With "8. Limitation of Liability"?

> See http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html for the formal voting 
> rules for the ASF.
>
> I don't see anywhere in this page where there is any provision for 
> "relaxing" these requirements for any reason.

I wrote "could", not "can".
And I did not mean less than 3 votes; I meant less stringent requirements upon 
the voters (e.g. looking at the the "diff").

Gilles

> ~Roger Whitcomb
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gilles [mailto:gil...@harfang.homelinux.org]
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 8:43 AM
> To: dev@commons.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE][RRESULT][RC1] Release Commons Math 3.6.1
>
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:29:48 -0400, Evan Ward wrote:
>> On 03/21/2016 09:18 AM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
>>> Le 21/03/2016 13:44, Evan Ward a écrit :
>>>> The vote passes with three votes in favor and none against.
>>> Well, in fact I am not sure it passes yet ...
>>>
>>> As far as I know, there are only 2 PMC members who voted: Oliver and 
>>> myself.
>>
>> Oh, I didn't realize there had to be 3 PMC members voting. I had 
>> already released the maven artifacts by the time I receive your 
>> message. I'll wait to publish the site until we have a vote from a 
>> third PMC member.
>> Hopefully it is a +1 so I don't have to figure out how to un-release 
>> something. I'll update the release.howto.txt document to include a 
>> note that a vote must have 3 PMC +1's to pass.
>
> I'll vote
>
> +1
>
> although I do not have the time to make all the "legal" steps.
> It's a leap of faith because I trust that you (and Luc) take extreme 
> care in what you do.
>
> This kind of trust is sorely missing in other circumstances.
>
> Also, concretely, I think that the requirements could be relaxed for a 
> bug-fix release.
>
> Regards,
> Gilles
>
>> Best Regards,
>> Evan
>>
>>>
>>> Could a third PMC member look at it?
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>> Luc
>>>
>>>> Thanks for taking time to review.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Evan
>>>>
>>>> On 03/19/2016 11:06 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>>> If you add the -Xdoclint:none command line argument, that will 
>>>>> ignore the javadoc errors. I love how the JDK itself doesn't 
>>>>> compile without that option.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 March 2016 at 15:38, Oliver Heger 
>>>>> <oliver.he...@oliver-heger.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Build worked fine with Java 1.6 on Windows 10. Artifacts and site 
>>>>>> look good. I could not build the site with Java 8 because of 
>>>>>> Javadoc errors, but this is not blocking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oliver
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 17.03.2016 um 20:06 schrieb Evan Ward:
>>>>>>> This is a [VOTE] for releasing Apache Commons Math 3.6.1 from 
>>>>>>> release candidate 1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tag name:
>>>>>>>   MATH_3_6_1_RC1 (signature can be checked from git using 'git 
>>>>>>> tag -v')
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tag URL:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=commons-math.git;a=tag;
>>>>>> h=e40b144832c0e138b185c92326588a087e00909c
>>>>>>> Commit ID the tag points at:
>>>>>>>   16abfe5de688cc52fb0396e0609cb33044b15653
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Site:
>>>>>>>   http://home.apache.org/~evanward/commons-math-3.6.1-RC1-site
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Distribution files:
>>>>>>>   https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/math/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Distribution files hashes (SHA1):
>>>>>>>   4d4bb6741f9b5d095bcab24f5232a871ba579df0
>>>>>> commons-math3-3.6.1-bin.tar.gz
>>>>>>>   e088b160c19af7ca2596d91430b8a71aaa5ea5da
>>>>>>> commons-math3-3.6.1-bin.zip
>>>>>>>   77ffe792e4bf0d4bcd7b4e2a8ce3b07df40a92b9
>>>>>> commons-math3-3.6.1-src.tar.gz
>>>>>>>   cadad1cbb7757b2616a96b20d357e3a6acb1b4c9
>>>>>>> commons-math3-3.6.1-src.zip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KEYS file to check signatures:
>>>>>>>   http://www.apache.org/dist/commons/KEYS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maven artifacts:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommo
>>>>>> ns-1142/org/apache/commons/commons-math3/3.6.1/
>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Release it.
>>>>>>> [ ] +0 Go ahead; I don't care.
>>>>>>> [ ] -0 There are a few minor glitches: ...
>>>>>>> [ ] -1 No, do not release it because ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This vote will close in 72 hours, at 2016-03-20T12:00:00Z (this 
>>>>>>> is UTC time).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>>


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