Epsilon is catchy
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:41 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 25 January 2016 at 09:28, luc <l...@spaceroots.org> wrote:
> > Le 2016-01-25 08:52, Benedikt Ritter a écrit :
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I very much like the idea of taking the name of a famous mathematician.
>
> In which case it has to be
>
> Euclid or Pythagoras (early)
> or
> Paul Erdős - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s_number
>
> and everyone has heard of
> John Nash (Beautiful Mind)
>
> etc.
> In the spirit of recent discussions, how about a RNG to pick the
> mathematician's name for each next incarnation?
>
> ;-)
>
> >> If it has to be some thing more descriptive: Apache Commons HttpClient
> >> went
> >> to Apache HttpComponents. How about Apache Math Components as TLP name?
>
> I quite like Apache Epsilon as a non-descriptive but related name.
>
> [ducks behind bikshed]
>
> >>
> >> Benedikt
> >>
> >> 2016-01-25 8:40 GMT+01:00 Ole Ersoy <ole.er...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Umbrella-ish is good.  Linear algebra, genetic algorithms, neural
> >>> networks, clustering, monte carlo, simplex...These need an umbrella.
> >>> Some
> >>> of the other Apache projects that do math may be interested in moving
> >>> that
> >>> piece under the Apache Math umbrella.
> >>>
> >>> Personally I like to see each in a separate repository dedicated to the
> >>> subject, along with the corresponding documentation, etc  So:
> >>> apache-math (Central repository describing the project as a whole with
> >>> the
> >>> documentation that cuts across modules)
> >>> apache-math-linear-real
> >>> apache-math-linear-field
> >>> apache-math-optimization-genetic
> >>> apache-math-optimization-simplex
> >>> etc.
> >>>
> >>> And hopefully:
> >>> apache-math-optimization-integer
> >>> apache-math-optimization-mixed
> >>> And more..
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Ole
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 01/24/2016 04:41 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just plain and simple "Apache Math" maybe?
> >>>>> Or is it taken already?
> >>>>>
> >>>> It's not taken; but I thought it was too broad-sounding and in fact
> >>>> umbrella-ish.  There are other ASF projects that do math-relates
> things.
> >>>> I
> >>>> think adding "components" makes it look more like a library of base
> >>>> components that other math-related projects can use.
> >>>>
> >>>> Phil
> >>>>
> >>>>> Gilles
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 14:46:17 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 1/24/16 2:16 PM, James Carman wrote:
> >>>>>>> I guess it depends on the scope of what the new TLP is going to do.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is slightly jumping the gun, as we do have the opportunity in
> >>>>>> forming the new TLP to revisit the initial goals of [math]; but I
> >>>>>> suspect that initially at least we will mostly continue to be a
> >>>>>> general-purpose Java math library, trying to provide IP-clean,
> >>>>>> easily integrated, standard algorithm-based solutions to common math
> >>>>>> programming problems.  We have grown to the point where we will
> >>>>>> almost certainly break the distribution up into separate
> >>>>>> "components."  No umbrella, but likely multiple release artifacts.
> >>>>>> Similar in some ways to what happened with [http], which is why I
> >>>>>> suggested the same approach to naming.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regarding picking a mathematician for the name, I don't much like
> >>>>>> that idea as whoever you choose, you end up loading some math area
> >>>>>> and / or cultural bias into the name.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Phil
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Umbrella projects aren't that popular these days, from what I
> >>>>>>> understand.
> >>>>>>> Maybe an homage to a famous mathematician? Apache Newton? Apache
> >>>>>>> Euler?
> >>>>>>> Apache Euclid?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:08 PM Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We need to agree on a name.  My own preference is for a boring,
> >>>>>>>> descriptive name, but I am manifestly not a marketing guy, so
> won't
> >>>>>>>> be offended if others want to be more creative.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My suggestion is
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> MathComponents
> >
> >
> > I would be happy with either Math Components or Math.
> > Also I do favor fancy acronyms that read exactly as well known
> > names (23 years ago, the name of my first mathematics library was
> > an acronym that read "Cantor"), it is probably not a good idea for
> > this new TLP.
> >
> > In any case, the project will most probably be de facto an umbrella
> > project as modularizing it seems in the current mood.
> >
> > best regards,
> > Luc
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hearkens back to HttpComponents, which has worked pretty well.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Phil
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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