My 2 cents as an outsider, for what it's worth. I have contributed code to VFS 
and we use VFS in Accumulo. I and several others have asked for a 2.1 release, 
or at least a plan/roadmap so that we know what has to happen before a release 
can occur. I even offered to help in any way possible[1]. The answer I received 
was that a release manager was assigned, but no other information. Since then I 
have seen a bunch of other commons projects being released. I figure that maybe 
they are dependencies and need to be released first before a VFS release. 

Personally, I would like to remove the VFS objects from Accumulo when VFS 2.1 
is released. I know that we are also running into VFS-487, which I spent some 
time updating the patch and verifying the tests work. I would like to update 
the HDFS dependency to the latest before the 2.1 release (VFS-530), but I don't 
know when that is going to happen. I would also like to take advantage of some 
of the fixes in 2.1, like VFS-500. 

I understand this is a volunteer organization and everyone is busy. However, 
from my perspective, you have turned down an offer to help. FWIW, I have 
thought about taking VFS 2.1-SNAPSHOT, applying the patches I want, and 
creating a release for use on my project (not Accumulo). 

[1] 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/commons-dev/201406.mbox/%3c423905266.3540581.1402347208157.javamail.r...@comcast.net%3E
 

- Dave 


----- Original Message -----

From: "Gary Gregory" <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 
To: "Commons Developers List" <dev@commons.apache.org> 
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:42:35 AM 
Subject: RE: [ALL] Do we need help? 

It feels overwhelming sometimes sure, but for me I just realize that this is 
just a self inflicted feeling. We are all volunteers here with no contractual 
or "hard" expectations. We could do better at managing expectations for certain 
and recruiting new blood, yes. But that takes time away from fun development 
tasks... I usually ask for patches as soon as someone asks for a fix or 
feature. At least that should make it more obvious to users and the community 
that you get out of Commons what you put in to some extent. 

Gary 

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Benedikt Ritter 
<brit...@apache.org> </div><div>Date:11/29/2014 05:53 (GMT-05:00) 
</div><div>To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> </div><div>Cc: 
</div><div>Subject: [ALL] Do we need help? </div><div> 
</div>Hi all, 

currently I feel really overwhelmed by the stuff I'd like to do at commons 
and the little time I can spend for it. Here is an (incomplete) list of the 
things I'd like to work on: 

- get a new release of the build plugin out of the door for auto creating 
README.md and CONTRIBUTING.md 
- Work on [VALIDATOR] and get a new release out of the door 
- Work on [DBUTILS] and get a new release out of the door 
- Push [lang] 3.4 out of the door 
- Have a look at [compress] 2.0 
- Backport important fixes from [collections] 4.0 to 3.x and create a last 
service update 
- work on [text] 
- help releasing [imaging] 1.0 
- Improve docs on how to get involved at commons 
- Organize a logo contest for commons 
- ... many more 

I wonder how you feel about this. I have the feeling that a lot of people 
ask us to fix stuff and release components but we don't really catch up 
with this. This will give people the feeling that we are slow or we simply 
don't care. 
Whenever I see someone posting on JIRA "can you please fix this, we need 
this in out application" and nobody is reacting, I feel tempted to jump 
right in, even if I don't know the component (which adds another entry to 
the list above). 
I don't see a way how we can improve this. My feeling is, that we need more 
committers. But then I have the comments of people I've talked to in my 
ear: "to old school", "to difficult to get involved", "to slow development 
process", "to unwelcoming community". So what do we do? Do we need help? 

I'm excited to hear your thoughts :-) 

Best regards, 
Benedikt 


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