2 goals actually:
- let people test it (you can say what you want excepted for few dev
while it is not on central it is not grabbed)
- let tomee use a release of jcs 2 instead of the snapshot it depends on

For that purpose (mainly first point) a beta is perfect


Romain Manni-Bucau
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2014-11-17 18:41 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>:
> It's still not clear to me what your goal is though as you did not answer
> my question... ;-)
>
> Gary
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Well playing with SVN is fine a moment but some projects start to
>> depend on SNAPSHOT and it can last forever (typically the case for
>> TomEE since some weeks to not say more).
>>
>> I'll cancel the vote today, not sure I'll be able to reroll it this
>> month so if anyone has some cycles and will of doing it please do
>> otherwise i'll try next month surely.
>>
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> @rmannibucau
>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>
>>
>> 2014-11-17 18:24 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>:
>> > I see several paths for you.
>> >
>> > First, cancel the VOTE thread.
>> >
>> > Second, decide if you want to tell people to grab the latest from SVN and
>> > experiment or release an Alpha or Beta. If you want a release, go through
>> > the process again...
>> >
>> > Then publicize the availability of the code in SVN or a release to the
>> ML,
>> > twitter and so on.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Basically I just want to release to let people grap it but I don't
>> >> want to prevent some API changes (so not yet a 2.0). Switched to a RC1
>> >> cause of all these commons release links.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> @rmannibucau
>> >> http://www.tomitribe.com
>> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>> >> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2014-11-17 18:16 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>:
>> >> > Let's step back here.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you want to release an Alpha or Beta? As opposed to a telling
>> people
>> >> to
>> >> > try out what is in the HEAD of trunk?
>> >> >
>> >> > If you do release 2.0, the implications are strict as to what API
>> changes
>> >> > are allowed WRT binary compatibility.
>> >> >
>> >> > If so you can do that if the JCS community agrees. Instead of
>> releasing
>> >> > 2.0, you would release a version 2.0-Beta1, for which you'd have a
>> first
>> >> > tag of 2.0-Beta1-RC1 to VOTE on.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> >> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> basically that's not what we (I maybe?) wanted to do. this was really
>> >> >> a RC (I even wanted to call it beta). So version is correct from this
>> >> >> point of view. I sadly didn't notice it was "conflicting" with
>> commons
>> >> >> habits.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >> @rmannibucau
>> >> >> http://www.tomitribe.com
>> >> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>> >> >> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2014-11-17 18:05 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>:
>> >> >> > No, the release candidate tag and project version should not match
>> >> >> exactly.
>> >> >> > The tag is a release candidate. What we are voting to produce is
>> >> version
>> >> >> > 2.0, so whatever the tag points to should build version 2.0, not
>> >> 2.0-RC1,
>> >> >> > not a snapshot, just 2.0. We can have any number of tags 2.0-RC1,
>> 2, 3
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> > so on, but they all should attempt to build 2.0. The next tag will
>> be
>> >> >> > 2.0-RC2.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The links I provided show the steps more or less clearly. Yes, I
>> know
>> >> our
>> >> >> > release process is complicated but that's all we've got... :-( You
>> do
>> >> get
>> >> >> > the hang of it after a while, but I still make mistakes all the
>> time
>> >> if
>> >> >> > that makes you feel better! ;-)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> >> >> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> @Gary: wdym? rc version is RC1 so it matches project version
>> finally.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >> >> @rmannibucau
>> >> >> >> http://www.tomitribe.com
>> >> >> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>> >> >> >> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 2014-11-17 17:38 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>:
>> >> >> >> > -1
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The files at the tag are incorrect, least the POM is wrong:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/jcs/tags/commons-jcs-2.0-RC1/pom.xml
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > because the project version is 2.0-RC1 instead of 2.0.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I've not found one cannonical receipt for releasing out of
>> commons
>> >> >> >> sadly, I
>> >> >> >> > use both
>> >> >> >> > - https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingNexus and
>> >> >> >> > - https://commons.apache.org/releases/index.html
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> >> >> >> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Hi
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I'm trying to align on commons standards this time.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> - here is the maven repo:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-1061/
>> >> >> >> >> - assemblies can be found here
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-1061/org/apache/commons/commons-jcs-dist/2.0-RC1/
>> >> >> >> >> (I didn't copy them in another place since I guess it is ok to
>> use
>> >> >> >> >> nexus for it)
>> >> >> >> >> - tag is here:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/jcs/tags/commons-jcs-2.0-RC1/
>> >> >> >> >> - Site staging is:
>> >> >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~rmannibucau/commons-jcs-2.0-RC1/
>> >> >> >> >> - rat report is:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~rmannibucau/commons-jcs-2.0-RC1/rat-report.html
>> >> >> >> >> - KEYS:  https://www.apache.org/dist/commons/KEYS
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Please review the release candidate and vote.
>> >> >> >> >> This vote will close no sooner that 72 hours from now or until
>> we
>> >> get
>> >> >> >> >> 3 PMC votes.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> [ ] +1 Release these artifacts
>> >> >> >> >> [ ] +-0 OK, but...
>> >> >> >> >> [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Thanks guys and sorry for all my learning steps,
>> >> >> >> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >> >> >> @rmannibucau
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.tomitribe.com
>> >> >> >> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>> >> >> >> >> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >> >> >> >>
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