Lets calm down, guys. As Luc said, we are experimenting here, getting the git workflow established. No one is trying to exclude or discourage anyone. Hank or Luc, can you respond to Gilles' questions about the commit? If not, it should be reverted, but hopefully you can all three agree on a way forward.
Phil On 10/17/14 8:31 AM, Hank Grabowski wrote: > Gilles, > > This is the original changes to get the bicubic spline working. These were > originally committed as a diff that was attached to the JIRA incident. The > suggestions in your email were in response to my questions about work > carrying forward from that point. > > I have been very explicit and verbose on what I was doing throughput the > development of those upgrades, both within the JIRA incident and within the > forums. I attempted to incorporate all the comments that I received. I > submitted my code in a way that could have been reviewed. If that isn't > clear then I apologize, however I don't appreciate the connotation that > these changes were done willy nilly or in a rogue fashion. > > Because I want my future contributions to be appreciated and not disrupted > I would like to know how to do this process better/differently. I don't > intend to put substantial effort into development and communication to have > yet another reaction like this. It is as or more frustrating to me as it > appears it is for you. > > Sent from my Android phone > On Oct 17, 2014 10:24 AM, "Gilles" <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 10:46:53 +0200, Luc Maisonobe wrote: >> >>> Hi Hank, >>> >>> Le 16/10/2014 20:20, Hank Grabowski a écrit : >>> >>>> OK. I submitted the pull request yesterday. I'm going to now remove the >>>> diff from JIRA. >>>> >>>> https://github.com/apache/commons-math/pull/2 >>>> >>> Thank you. I have merged this request and pushed the result to our main >>> repository. The only changes I introduced were fixing end of lines in >>> the new Akima spline files (main and test). Perhaps you should check the >>> git setting core.autocrlf on your side. >>> >>> >>> It seems to me this pull request did not make it to our dev list. Did I >>> simply miss it or is there a problem in the GitHub setting since we >>> updated our repo? Did someone else see the request? If nobody saw it, I >>> think we should ask infra to fix the settings. >>> >>> >> I didn't see the request. >> >> I also did not see the changes before they were committed.[1] >> >> I have no problem with the principle of dropping broken code; but I have >> one with figuring out when it is okay to do so without notice, ignoring >> that care be taken with such changes. >> >> I had suggested to not touch the existing classes and that they should >> be first deprecated, and then removed. Since several alternatives for >> implementing the functionality were proposed, it would have been sensible >> to have an agreement on how to fit them within the library (for example: >> an abstract base class and concrete subclasses for each kind of spline). >> >> In CM, we've had, on one hand, small, trivial, changes that generated a >> lot of unwarranted heat and stalled for days or weeks. And on the other, >> here is an example where big changes are pushed without a discussion. >> >> When I dare to make a suggestion about something,[2] it means that >> I took some time to think about the proposal; the minimum of respect >> for this commitment is to acknowledge the existence of such comments >> and provide an explanation as to why it is better to not follow the >> suggested path: >> >> http://markmail.org/message/tjengf3t6j3hqyph >> >> [If alternative views are really so different that a compromise cannot >> be reached, it is quite simple to count the people who have expressed >> their preference from a list of alternatives (as Phil often posts). >> In this instance, only I have expressed my preference; hence I do not >> understand why something else has been committed.] >> >> My opinion is that we should have created new classes containing the >> working implementation(s) of the interpolation, and deprecated but >> kept the old ones at least up to release 4.0, advertizing (in the >> release notes and in the Javadoc) that they are not working properly >> (although they follow reference "such and such"). [Someone might >> have used that window of opportunity to point to the root cause of >> the issue.] >> >> So, was there a problem with that approach? >> >> I'm sorry if this naive questioning looks trivial to some of you, >> but I'd honestly like to know if this project is team work, and how >> it's supposed to work in practice. >> >> I'm also sorry if this rant has been caused by a simple overlook >> of the post I'm referring to above. However even if it's the case, >> there is a problem. >> >> I hope I'm not being misunderstood[3]: it is great that Hank >> could fix CM's spline interpolators. >> In this opinion, I'm only concerned with the overall aspect of >> contributing to a project that purports to be more that a bunch >> of hooks to math functions, and about the design of which people >> who have been contributing for some time might have earned (?) >> the right to be listened to.[4] >> >> >> Regards, >> Gilles >> >> [1] And I'm also not yet comfortable with looking at large changes >> due to my surely inefficient handling of "git"... >> [2] This is already after the self-censorship filter, on issues >> where I know in advance that challenging the adopted view will >> either be ignored or go nowhere... :-} >> [3] As is often the case by people who do not carefully read what >> I write in this forum. >> [4] Which, I know, is not the same as being heard, and even less >> being agreed with. ;-) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
