2014-07-21 16:55 GMT+02:00 Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com>: > On 7/21/14, 5:11 AM, Sergio Fernández wrote: > > Hi Benedikt, > > > > On 21/07/14 13:12, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > >> first of all, welcome the Apache Commons dev mailing list. It's > >> nice to > >> hear that you have decided to share code with others using the > >> Apache > >> Commons project. > > > > Consider this contribution our (Andy, Peter and mine) two cents to > > such important project. Thanks for having us on board. > > > >> In the past we had the policy, that the commons sandbox is free > >> for all ASF > >> committers. So you could have started coding at commons right > >> from the > >> beginning ;-) > >> Since you already bringing a group of people who are willing to > >> work on the > >> component, I don't have a problem with letting commons-rdf join > >> the sandbox. > > > > Sorry, I tried to find it, but in the web site there is no > > information about such procedure. Do we need to start a vote and > > get a consensus from the Commons PMC? > > There is no formal process for starting a sandbox component per se, > as long as existing ASF committer(s) are initiating it. To get > sandbox karma, ASF committers just have to ask for it here. There > is, however, a process for accepting a software grant, which in this > case we are going to have to follow, since the initial code was > developed outside the ASF (i.e., not under the oversight of an ASF > PMC, unless I am misunderstanding something). Have a look at [1] > for how Commons sandbox works and [2] for the IP clearance process. >
Phil, thanks for clearing this up. I think after sorting the IP stuff out, the guys don't need sandbox karma (in svn), but a sandbox git repo (since they insist on developing via git) Benedikt > > Welcome to Commons! > > Phil > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/commons/CommonsEtiquette > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ > > > > > >> Using git may be an issue. We had long discussions about svn vs. > >> git and we > >> came to the conclusion that using the one or the other should be > >> decided on > >> a component basis by the developers of the components. So far > >> only Commons > >> Math is really taking action to migrate to git. > >> If you really want to use git, we need to figure out how we can > >> integrate > >> that with our release process. Having you join us, may be a > >> chance for us > >> to learn from more experienced git users ;-) > > > > Definitely we do need git, otherwise some tasks would require > > extra time to fuss with the weird way that svn does things after > > working with git. > > > > I'm not aware of the long discussions you mention. But of course > > I'm willing to help you guys with the migration of those > > subprojects that want to try. > > > >> I'm not sure about the git PRs. Does that involve github? What > >> about the IP > >> in such a case? It legal okay with that? > > > > Infra has already worked on providing the basic infrastructure. > > Then each project is free to manage it as they prefer. What we did > > in Marmotta, for instance, is to force to file issues in Jira for > > all PRs (so having the regular IP in place). > > > >> About the commons-rdf code itself: I only took a very brief look. > >> As far as > >> I understand this is only supposed to be an API, hence there are no > >> implementation classes, right? One thing that caught my eye is > >> BlankNoreOrIRI... Is this defined as such in the standard? > > > > You are completely right. There has been a long discussion about > > that aspect, see issue #9 fir further background: > > > > https://github.com/wikier/commons-rdf/issues/9 > > > > Because there is not such official term for what a RDF subject > > could have a triple. > > > >> It just feels wrong, and I'm seeing people doing: > >> > >> if(term instanceof BlankNode) > >> BlankNode node = (BlankNode) term > >> else > >> IRI iri = (IRI) term > > > > It is not expected to have classes implementing only that > > interface, so it's only useful for the methods signature. That's > > indeed a problem in Java, so we may have to figure out better > > design solutions. > > > >> But as I said, I only too a very brief look and I don't know RDF > >> too well. > >> Further more, where are the license headers in your files?! > > > > Already working on it ;-) > > > > https://github.com/wikier/commons-rdf/issues/28 > > > > Thanks for all your comments. > > > > Cheers, > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > -- http://people.apache.org/~britter/ http://www.systemoutprintln.de/ http://twitter.com/BenediktRitter http://github.com/britter
