On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>wrote:

> One of the problems I have is that we do not solve is the following story
> well, and it is not a particular problem of Commons or the ASF: I want to
> update from [foo] version 2 to the current version 5. How do I know what's
> changed and what I need to do to migrate/upgrade?
>
> The first thing I do is look at the Release Notes (RN). Sometimes we have
> the RN cover ONLY the current version (bad). Sometimes the RN cover all
> versions (good) with the newest at the top.
>
> The last thing I want to do is start navigating JIRA and click around for
> an hour in different versions, reports, filters and so on. Worse (and I've
> had to do this with some software), is that I have to download all versions
> and check their release notes.
>
> If I have no good release notes to work with, I have the changes report and
> the JIRA report. The JIRA report is automatically generated, which is good.
> The changes report depends on the diligence of the developers having kept
> up to date the data. Humans = potential for errors; computers = less so ;)
>
> So I am not crazy about removing information for a given component unless
> the RN is of the historical nature.
>
>
I felt like Hen had done quite a good job with the lang3 migration guide.

Matt


> Gary
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Benedikt Ritter <brit...@apache.org
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > 2013/10/22 sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > On 22 October 2013 19:40, Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Anyone know what the point of the JIRA report is?
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems to be much like the changes report, but with less active
> > > > > authorship and a confusing inclusion of resolved issues for
> different
> > > > > versions.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm wondering why we include it.
> > > >
> > > > The changes report only includes changes for the current version.
> > > >
> > > > The JIRA report includes changes for multiple versions; provided that
> > > > the sort mode is correct - and provided that the JIRA fix versions
> are
> > > > set up correctly - it would be more useful than just the changes
> > > > report.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It just duplicates what we have in the release notes. And since the
> site
> > > can change anytime, I'm not giving to much about the reports at all
> > (after
> > > the release vote). But that's a different issue.
> > >
> > >
> > Agreed on both issues :)
> >
> > Sebb points out that JIRA report has more info, but given its an out of
> > date version of JIRA itself, I'm not seeing why we would want the JIRA
> > report (even more so than the others).
> >
> > Any reason to keep it turned on for Commons?
> >
> > Hen
> >
>
>
>
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