Le 28/08/2013 19:59, Ajo Fod a écrit : > Its a=0 that bothers me. x > 0 in my case.
Then everything should be OK with the current code, which reads: final double[] function = new double[1 + order]; if (a == 0) { if (operand[operandOffset] == 0) { function[0] = 1; double infinity = Double.POSITIVE_INFINITY; for (int i = 1; i < function.length; ++i) { infinity = -infinity; function[i] = infinity; } } else if (operand[operandOffset] < 0) { Arrays.fill(function, Double.NaN); } } else { function[0] = FastMath.pow(a, operand[operandOffset]); final double lnA = FastMath.log(a); for (int i = 1; i < function.length; ++i) { function[i] = lnA * function[i - 1]; } } So when a == 0 and operand[operandOffset] > 0, you don't enter in any of the branches above (you enter the top level if, but don't enter any of the second level if/else if). This means that you skip directly from the allocation of the array function to its use, and hence you have the default values of a newly allocated array, which is guaranteed to be 0. Does this fits your needs? Luc > > In the code I use, the DerivativeStructure evaluates to NaN for a=0 when x >> 0 . I think we agree that in this condition the derivative should > evaluate to 0. > > Perhaps I wrote something to mislead you on this detail. > > -Ajo > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Luc Maisonobe <luc.maison...@free.fr>wrote: > >> Hi Ajo, >> >> Le 28/08/2013 16:56, Ajo Fod a écrit : >>> To define things precisely: >>> y = f(a,x) = |a|^x >>> >>> Can we agree that: >>> df(a,x)/dx -> 0 when a->0 and x > 0 :[ NOTE: x > 0] >> >> Yes, of course, it is perfectly true. >> >>> >>> If this is acceptable, we get this very useful property that df (a,x)/dx >> is >>> defined and continuous for all a provided x>0 because we use the modulus >> of >>> a in the function definition. >> >> Yes, as long as we don't have x = 0, we remain in a smooth, indefinitely >> differentiable domain. >> >>> In optimization, with this patch at |a|=0, I >>> can set an optimizer to search the whole real line without worrying about >>> a=0 otherwise I've to look out for a=0 explicitly. It seems unnecessary >> to >>> add a constraint to make |a|>0. I already have a constraint for x >0. >> >> I don't understand what you mean here. If you already know that x > 0, >> then you don't have to worry about a=0 or a>0 since in this case both >> approaches lead to the same result. >> >> If you look at the graph for df(a,x)/dx for a few values of a, you will >> see that we have: >> >> lim a->0+ df(a,x)/dx = 0 for x > 0 >> lim a->0+ df(a,x)/dx = -infinity for x = 0 >> >> and this despite df(a,x)/dx = ln(a) a^x is a continuous function, >> indefinitely differentiable. The limit of a continuous indefinitely >> differentiable function may be a non continuous function. It is a >> counter-intuitive result, I agree, but thre are many other examples of >> such strange behaviour in mathematics (if I remember well, Fourier >> transforms of step function exhibit the same paroble, backward). >> >> If you have x>0, you are already on the safe side of the singularity, so >> this is were I lose your tracks and don't understand how the singular >> point x=0 bothers you. >> >> best regards, >> Luc >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ajo. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Luc Maisonobe <luc.maison...@free.fr >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ajo, >>>> >>>> Le 27/08/2013 16:44, Ajo Fod a écrit : >>>>> Thanks for the constant structure. >>>>> >>>>> No. The limit value when x->0+ is 1, not O. >>>>> >>>>> I agree with this. I was just going for the derivatives = 0. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The nth derivative of a^x can be computed analytically as ln(a)^n a^x, >>>>>> so the initial slope at x=0 is simply ln(a), positive for a > 1, zero >>>>>> for a = 1, negative for 0 < a < 1 with a limit at -inifnity when a -> >>>> 0+. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lets think about this for a sec: >>>>> Derivative of |a|^x wrt x at x=2.0 for various values of a >>>>> Derivative@0.031250=-0.003384 >>>>> Derivative@0.015625=-0.001015 >>>>> Derivative@0.007813=-0.000296 >>>>> Derivative@0.003906=-0.000085 >>>>> Derivative@0.001953=-0.000024 >>>>> ... tends to 0 >>>> >>>> yes, because 2.0 > 0. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Derivative of |a|^x wrt x at x=0.5 for various values of a >>>>> Derivative@0.031250=-0.612555 >>>>> Derivative@0.007813=-0.428759 >>>>> Derivative@0.001953=-0.275612 >>>>> Derivative@0.000488=-0.168418 >>>>> Derivative@0.000122=-0.099513 >>>>> Derivative@0.000031=-0.057407 >>>>> Derivative@0.000008=-0.032528 >>>>> Derivative@0.000002=-0.018176 >>>>> ... tends to 0 when a->0 >>>> >>>> yes because 0.5 > 0. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> The code I used for the print outs is: >>>>> static final double EPS = 0.0001d; >>>>> >>>>> public static void main(final String[] args) { >>>>> final double x = 0.5d; >>>>> int from = 5; >>>>> int to = 20; >>>>> System.out.println("Derivative of |a|^x wrt x at x=" + x); >>>>> for (int p = from; p < to; p+=2) { >>>>> double a = Math.pow(2d, -p); >>>>> final double calc = (Math.pow(a, x + EPS) - Math.pow(a, >> x)) / >>>>> EPS; >>>>> System.out.format("Derivative@%f=%f \n", a, calc); >>>>> } >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> As for the x=0 case: >>>>> 1^0 = 1 >>>>> 0.5^0 = 1 >>>>> 0.0001^0 = 1 >>>>> 0^0 is technically undefined, but 1 is a good definition: >>>>> http://www.math.hmc.edu/funfacts/ffiles/10005.3-5.shtml >>>> >>>> Yes. >>>> >>>>> ... so, a good value for the differential of da^x/dx limit x->0 and >>>> a->0 = >>>>> 0 >>>> >>>> I don't agree. What you wrote in the lines above is another way to say >>>> what I wrote in my previous message: the value at x=0 is always y=1, and >>>> the value for x > 0 tends to 0 as a->0+. >>>> >>>> So the function always starts at 1 and dives more and more steeply as a >>>> becomes smaller, and the derivative at 0 becomes more and more negative, >>>> up to -infinity, *not* 0. >>>> >>>> The function is ill-behaved and the fact the derivative is infinite is >>>> consistent with this ill-behaviour. >>>> >>>> The definition of the derivative is : >>>> >>>> f'(x) = lim (f(x+h) - f(x))/h when h -> 0+ >>>> >>>> when f(x) = 0^x and assuming 0^0 = 1 as you have agreed above, this >> gives: >>>> >>>> f'(0) = lim (0^(0+h) - 0^0)/h = lim (0 - 1)/h = -infinity >>>> >>>> which is exactly the same result as computing for a non-null a and then >>>> reducing it: d(a^x)/dx = ln(a) a^x = ln(a) when x=0, diverges to >>>> -infinity when a converges to 0. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As mentioned earlier, I think the cause for this is that log|a| -> >>>> infinity >>>>> slower than |a|^x -> 0 as |a|->0 . >>>> >>>> But a^x does *not* converge to 0 for x = 0! a^0 is always 1 (rigorously) >>>> regardless of the value of a as long as it is not 0, and then when we >>>> change a we can also consider the limit is 1 when a-> 0. This convention >>>> is well accepted. This convention is implemented in the Java standard >>>> Math.pow function, and we followed this trend. This is the reason why >>>> the functions becomes more and more steep as a becomes smaller. At the >>>> end, it is a discontinuous function (and hence should not be >>>> differentiable, or it is differentiable only if we use extended real >>>> numbers with infinity added). >>>> >>>> This is the heart of the ill-behaviour of 0^0. We want to compute it as >>>> a limit value for a^b when both parameters converge to 0, but we get a >>>> different result if we first set a fixed and converge b to 0, and later >>>> reduce a down to zero (your approach), and when we do the opposite. In >>>> one case we get 0, in the other case we get 1. >>>> >>>> Lets put it another way: >>>> If we consider the derivative f'(0) should be 0, then the value f(0) >>>> should also be considered equal to zero. This would mean as soon as we >>>> get a tiny non-zero a (say the smallest number that can be represented >>>> as a double), then f(0) would jump from 0 to 1 instantly, and f'(0) >>>> would jump from 0 to -infinity instantly. So we would have at a = 0 an >>>> initial null derivative, then a jump to a very negative derivative as a >>>> leaves 0, then the derivative would become less and less negative as a >>>> increase up to 1, at a=1 the derivative would again be 0, then the >>>> derivative would continue to increase and becode positive as a grows >>>> larger than 1 (all these derivatives are computed at x=0, and as written >>>> previously, they are simply equal to log(a)). >>>> >>>> To summarize, the two choices are: >>>> 1) - first considering a fixed a, strictly positive, >>>> - then looking globally at the function a^x for all values x>=0, >>>> - then reducing a, noting that all functions start at the same >>>> point x=0, y=1 and the derivatives become more and more negative >>>> as the function becomes more and more ill-behaved >>>> 2) - first considering a fixed x, strictly positive, >>>> - then reducing a and identifying the limit values is 0 for all a, >>>> - then building a function by packing all the x>0, which is very >>>> smooth as it is identically 0 for all x>0 >>>> - finally adding the limit value at x=0, which in this case would >>>> be 0 (and the derivative would also be 0). >>>> >>>> it seems well accepted to consider the value of 0^0 should be set to 1, >>>> and as a consequence the corresponding derivative with respect to x >>>> should be set to -infinity. >>>> >>>> I fully agree it is not a perfect solution, it is an arbitrary choice. >>>> However, this choice is consistent with what all implementations of the >>>> pow function I have seen (i.e. 0^0 set to 1 instead of 0). >>>> >>>> Your approach is not wrong, it is as valid as the other one. It is >>>> simply not the common choice. >>>> >>>> I would say an even better choice would have been to say 0^0 *is not* >>>> defined and even the value should be set to NaN (not even speaking of >>>> the derivative). >>>> >>>> Does this seem acceptable to you? >>>> >>>> best regards, >>>> Luc >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ajo. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The limit curve corresponding to a = 0 is therefore a singular >> function >>>>>> with f(0) = 1 and f(x) = 0 for all x > 0. The fact f(0) = 1 and not 0 >> is >>>>>> consistent with the derivative being negative infinity, as by >> definition >>>>>> the derivative is the limit of [f(0+h) - f(0)] / h when h->0+, as the >>>>>> finite difference is -1/h. >>>>>> >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> }else{ >>>>>>> for (int i = 0; i < function.length; ++i) { >>>>>>> function[i] = Double.NaN; >>>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> This alternative case is a good improvement, thanks for it. I forgot >> to >>>>>> handle negative cases properly. I have therefore changed the code >>>>>> (committed as r1517788) with this improvement, together with several >>>>>> test cases. >>>>>> >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> } else { >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in place of : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if (a == 0) { >>>>>>> if (operand[operandOffset] == 0) { >>>>>>> function[0] = 1; >>>>>>> double infinity = Double.POSITIVE_INFINITY; >>>>>>> for (int i = 1; i < function.length; ++i) { >>>>>>> infinity = -infinity; >>>>>>> function[i] = infinity; >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> } else { >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PS: I think you made a change to DSCompiler.pow too. If so, what >>>> happens >>>>>>> when a=0 & x!=0 in that function? >>>>>> >>>>>> No, I didn't change the other signatures of the pow function. So the >>>>>> value should be OK (i.e. 1) but all derivatives, including the first >>>>>> one, should be NaN. What the new function brings is a correct negetive >>>>>> infinity first derivative at singularity point, better accuracy for >>>>>> non-singular points, and possibly faster computation. >>>>>> >>>>>> best regards, >>>>>> Luc >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Luc Maisonobe <l...@spaceroots.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ajo Fod <ajo....@gmail.com> a écrit : >>>>>>>>> Are you saying patched the code? Can you provide the link? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I committed it in the development version. You just have to update >>>> your >>>>>>>> checked out copy from either the official >>>>>>>> Apache subversion repository or the git mirror we talked about in a >>>>>>>> previous thread. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The new method is a static one called pow and taking a and x as >>>>>> arguments >>>>>>>> and returning a^x. Not to >>>>>>>> Be confused with the non-static methods that take only the power as >>>>>>>> argument (either int, double or >>>>>>>> DerivativeStructure) and use the instance as the base to apply power >>>> on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> Luc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Ajo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Luc Maisonobe <l...@spaceroots.org >>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 24/08/2013 11:24, Luc Maisonobe a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> Le 23/08/2013 19:20, Ajo Fod a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ajo, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This shows one way of interpreting the derivative for strictly >> +ve >>>>>>>>>> numbers. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> public static void main(final String[] args) { >>>>>>>>>>>> final double x = 1d; >>>>>>>>>>>> DerivativeStructure dsA = new DerivativeStructure(1, 1, >> 0, >>>>>>>>> x); >>>>>>>>>>>> System.out.println("Derivative of |a|^x wrt x"); >>>>>>>>>>>> for (int p = 10; p < 21; p++) { >>>>>>>>>>>> double a; >>>>>>>>>>>> if (p < 20) { >>>>>>>>>>>> a = 1d / Math.pow(2d, p); >>>>>>>>>>>> } else { >>>>>>>>>>>> a = 0d; >>>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>>> final DerivativeStructure a_ds = new >>>>>>>>> DerivativeStructure(1, >>>>>>>>>> 1, >>>>>>>>>>>> a); >>>>>>>>>>>> final DerivativeStructure out = a_ds.pow(dsA); >>>>>>>>>>>> final double calc = (Math.pow(a, x + EPS) - >>>>>>>>> Math.pow(a, x)) >>>>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>>>>> EPS; >>>>>>>>>>>> System.out.format("Derivative@%f=%f %f\n", a, >> calc, >>>>>>>>>>>> out.getPartialDerivative(new int[]{1})); >>>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> At this point I"m explicitly substituting the rule that >>>>>>>>>> derivative(|a|^x) = >>>>>>>>>>>> 0 for |a|=0. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but this fails for x = 0, as the limit of the finite >>>>>>>>> difference is >>>>>>>>>>> -infinity and not 0. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can build your own function which explicitly assumes a is >>>>>>>>> constant >>>>>>>>>>> and takes care of special values as follows: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> public static DerivativeStructure aToX(final double a, >>>>>>>>>>> final DerivativeStructure >>>>>>>>> x) { >>>>>>>>>>> final double lnA = (a == 0 && x.getValue() == 0) ? >>>>>>>>>>> Double.NEGATIVE_INFINITY : >>>>>>>>>>> FastMath.log(a); >>>>>>>>>>> final double[] function = new double[1 + x.getOrder()]; >>>>>>>>>>> function[0] = FastMath.pow(a, x.getValue()); >>>>>>>>>>> for (int i = 1; i < function.length; ++i) { >>>>>>>>>>> function[i] = lnA * function[i - 1]; >>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>> return x.compose(function); >>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This will work and provides derivatives to any order for almost >> any >>>>>>>>>>> values of a and x, including a=0, x=1 as in your exemple, but >> also >>>>>>>>>>> slightly better for a=0, x=0. However, it still has an important >>>>>>>>>>> drawback: it won't compute the n-th order derivative correctly >> for >>>>>>>>> a=0, >>>>>>>>>>> x=0 and n > 1. It will provide NaN for these higher order >>>>>>>>> derivatives >>>>>>>>>>> instead of +/-infinity according to parity of n. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have added a similar function to the DerivativeStructure class >>>>>>>>> (with >>>>>>>>>> some errors above corrected). The main interesting property of >> this >>>>>>>>>> function is that it is more accurate that converting a to a >>>>>>>>>> DerivativeStructure and using the general x^y function. It does >> its >>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>>> to handle the special case, but as written above, this does NOT >> work >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> general combination (i.e. more than one variable or more than one >>>>>>>>>> order). As soon as there is a combination, the derivative will >>>>>>>>> involve >>>>>>>>>> something like df/dx * dg/dy and as infinities and zeros are >>>>>>>>> everywheren >>>>>>>>>> NaN appears immediately for these partial derivatives. This cannot >>>> be >>>>>>>>>> avoided. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you stay away from the singularity, the function behaves >>>>>>>>> correctly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> best regards, >>>>>>>>>> Luc >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is a known problem that we already encountered when dealing >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> rootN. Here is an extract of a comment in the test case >>>>>>>>>>> testRootNSingularity, where similar NaN appears instead of +/- >>>>>>>>> infinity. >>>>>>>>>>> The dsZero instance in the comment is simple the x parameter of >> the >>>>>>>>>>> function, as a derivativeStructure with value 0.0 and depending >> on >>>>>>>>>>> itself (dsZero = new DerivativeStructure(1, maxOrder, 0, 0.0)): >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> // the following checks shows a LIMITATION of the current >>>>>>>>> implementation >>>>>>>>>>> // we have no way to tell dsZero is a pure linear variable x = 0 >>>>>>>>>>> // we only say: "dsZero is a structure with value = 0.0, >>>>>>>>>>> // first derivative = 1.0, second and higher derivatives = 0.0". >>>>>>>>>>> // Function composition rule for second derivatives is: >>>>>>>>>>> // d2[f(g(x))]/dx2 = f''(g(x)) * [g'(x)]^2 + f'(g(x)) * g''(x) >>>>>>>>>>> // when function f is the nth root and x = 0 we have: >>>>>>>>>>> // f(0) = 0, f'(0) = +infinity, f''(0) = -infinity (and higher >>>>>>>>>>> // derivatives keep switching between +infinity and -infinity) >>>>>>>>>>> // so given that in our case dsZero represents g, we have g(x) = >> 0, >>>>>>>>>>> // g'(x) = 1 and g''(x) = 0 >>>>>>>>>>> // applying the composition rules gives: >>>>>>>>>>> // d2[f(g(x))]/dx2 = f''(g(x)) * [g'(x)]^2 + f'(g(x)) * g''(x) >>>>>>>>>>> // = -infinity * 1^2 + +infinity * 0 >>>>>>>>>>> // = -infinity + NaN >>>>>>>>>>> // = NaN >>>>>>>>>>> // if we knew dsZero is really the x variable and not the >> identity >>>>>>>>>>> // function applied to x, we would not have computed f'(g(x)) * >>>>>>>>> g''(x) >>>>>>>>>>> // and we would have found that the result was -infinity and not >>>>>>>>> NaN >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps >>>>>>>>>>> Luc >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ajo. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Luc Maisonobe >>>>>>>>> <luc.maison...@free.fr >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ajo, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 23/08/2013 17:48, Ajo Fod a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try this and I'm happy to explain if necessary: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> public class Derivative { >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> public static void main(final String[] args) { >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DerivativeStructure dsA = new DerivativeStructure(1, >> 1, >>>>>>>>> 0, >>>>>>>>>> 1d); >>>>>>>>>>>>>> System.out.println("Derivative of constant^x wrt x"); >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for (int a = -3; a < 3; a++) { >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We have chosen the classical definition which implies c^x is >> not >>>>>>>>>> defined >>>>>>>>>>>>> for real r and negative c. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Our implementation is based on the decomposition c^r = exp(r * >>>>>>>>> ln(c)), >>>>>>>>>>>>> so the NaN comes from the logarithm when c <= 0. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Noe also that as explained in the documentation here: >>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-math/userguide/analysis.html#a4.7_Differentiation >>>>>>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>>>> there are no concepts of "constants" and "variables" in this >>>>>>>>> framework, >>>>>>>>>>>>> so we cannot draw a line between c^r as seen as a univariate >>>>>>>>> function >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> r, or as a univariate function of c, or as a bivariate function >>>>>>>>> of c >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> r, or even as a pentavariate function of p1, p2, p3, p4, p5 >> with >>>>>>>>> both c >>>>>>>>>>>>> and r being computed elsewhere from p1...p5. So we don't make >>>>>>>>> special >>>>>>>>>>>>> cases for the case c = 0 for example. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does this explanation make sense to you? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luc >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> final DerivativeStructure a_ds = new >>>>>>>>>> DerivativeStructure(1, >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a); >>>>>>>>>>>>>> final DerivativeStructure out = a_ds.pow(dsA); >>>>>>>>>>>>>> System.out.format("Derivative@%d=%f\n", a, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out.getPartialDerivative(new int[]{1})); >>>>>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Gilles >>>>>>>>> <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:17:35 -0700, Ajo Fod wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seems like the DerivativeCompiler returns NaN. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO it should return 0. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What should be 0? And Why? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this worthy of an issue? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As is, no. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gilles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Ajo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.**apache.org >> < >>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org