On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Matthias Wessendorf<mat...@apache.org> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Mohammad Nour > El-Din<nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I support either solution 1 or 2 from first section of solutions: >> >> 1- We will not be waiting for others till they decide whether donate >> the code or not. > > RH donation will not happen - we could fork, the license is just fine for it. > But yeah, why forking a RI ? :-) >
In that case I think we go and start with refactoring/re-writing the current commons validator impl. > I like the incubator style a little bit better than the commons sandbox. > >> >> 2- We will get more benefit for ASF as we may gain more committer to >> join the community and help grow it more. >> >> 3- For the non-committers contribution to the code, I think it is not >> a problem as it is the normal case for ASF projects, these >> contributions make us gain more committers in the future and hence >> more support for ASF. >> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Donald Woods<dwo...@apache.org> wrote: >>> Everyone, I think it is time again to reopen the discussions around creating >>> a Validator2 release [1], which implements the upcoming JSR-303 Bean >>> Validation spec [2] and [3]. Since JSR-303 is now a required component of >>> Java EE 6 application servers and must be supported by JSR-314 JSF2 and >>> JSR-317 JPA2, there is growing interest in the Apache Geronimo, Apache >>> OpenJPA, Apache MyFaces and Apache OpenEJB projects to grow and maintain a >>> JSR-303 implementation at Apache. >>> >>> First, to meet this goal, I would like us to consider the following options: >>> >>> I. - Commons Sandbox >>> Utilize the existing validator2 sandbox area [4] to collaborate on a JSR-303 >>> implementation which would eventually become commons-validator-2.0. >>> Pros: Existing Apache committers can be given access to the sandbox and >>> work with the Commons community to become committers. >>> Cons: Non-committers must provide patches and build karma, even before the >>> project is moved out of the sandbox (we have interest from two companies to >>> help, but most of their potential contributors are not Apache committers.) >>> >>> II. - Apache Incubator >>> Submit an incubator proposal to create a JSR-303 focused project, which >>> would be sponsored by the Commons PMC and/or Geronimo PMC with the goal >>> being that the candidate proposal would become a sub-project of Commons as >>> the new Validator R2 code base. >>> Pros: Allows us to seed the initial project with non-committers and >>> demonstrate there is broad support for this project. >>> Cons: Additional incubator proposal and graduation overhead, along with not >>> working closely with the whole Commons community on developing the new code >>> base. >>> >>> >>> Secondly, we have two existing JSR-303 implementations that we could >>> possibly use to help bootstrap this effort: >>> >>> I. - Agimatec-Validation project on Google Code >>> Code uses ASL 2.0 and I have approached one of the Agimatec GmbH employees >>> about possibly donating the existing code to Apache. >>> >>> II. - JSR-303 RI >>> Code being developed by Red Hat as the RI using ASL 2.0. Kevin Sutter from >>> the OpenJPA team has approached Emmanuel at Red Hat on this subject, but it >>> is doubtful we would see a code donation, but could pull it in as >>> third-party code to get started. >>> >>> >>> Please let me know your thoughts, as we would like to get this bootstrapped >>> this month, as the Geronimo community is starting to put together our plans >>> for a Geronimo 3.0 release in 2010 for a Java EE 6 application server. >>> >>> >>> -Donald Woods >>> Apache Geronimo Committer and PMC member >>> Apache OpenJPA Committer and PMC member >>> dwoods.AT.apache.org >>> >>> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VALIDATOR-279 >>> >>> [2] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=303 >>> >>> [3] http://people.redhat.com/~ebernard/validation/ >>> >>> [4] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/sandbox/validator2/trunk >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks >> - Mohammad Nour >> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >> ---- >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" >> - Albert Einstein >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> >> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour ---- "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
