On 09/11/2008, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Jochen Wiedmann
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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>  > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > > For example, one of the reasons people don't want to bring things to
>  > Commons
>  > > any more is because they have to buy in to the entire Commons enchilada.
>  > > Consistent build systems, consistent web sites, consistent release
>  > criteria,
>  > > and so on. This consistency is crucial when Commons is being promoted to
>  > the
>  > > "outside world", because it allows consumers to understand what they will
>  > > see / get from any given component. I believe it's a big part of what has
>  > > made Commons a "brand" in and of itself, and for Commons as an
>  > > externally-facing project, it's definitely a Good Thing (tm).
>  >
>  > I don't agree with that. IMO, it's gross how much a commons
>  > subproject is influenced by others. I'd clearly prefer if the subprojects
>  > were
>  > completely driven by those who actually do the subprojects work.
>
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> But that's exactly my point. If you're a (prospective) Commons developer,
>  you quite likely don't want to have to buy into the whole Commons enchilada,
>  and would likely prefer to just get on and do things your own way. However,
>  if you're someone looking to consume Commons within an enterprise (which is
>  part of what I meant by the "outside world"), that consistency across all
>  Commons components is a great benefit, because once you understand how one
>  of them works, you understand how they all work (within reason, of course).

It's also a lot easier for committers to work on multiple commons
projects if the components all do things in the same way.

And it probably helps with PMC oversight too.

>  --
>  Martin Cooper
>
>
>
>  Jochen
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my
>  > telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out
>  > how to use my telephone.
>  >
>  >    -- (Bjarne Stroustrup,
>
> > http://www.research.att.com/~bs/bs_faq.html#really-say-that<http://www.research.att.com/%7Ebs/bs_faq.html#really-say-that>
>
> >       My guess: Nokia E50)
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