Agree with Daan. Actually we do not need to make any code change to drop centos8 support, we just need to update the document https://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/latest/releasenotes/compat.html users can still use CentOS8 but with their own risk.
-Wei On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 at 09:44, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote: > €0,02: Though I agree with Sven and Wei, I would say that we want to > support as broad a variety of platforms as we can without making any > guaranties on any of them, unless we get sponsored by the vendors or users > to do so. This is de facto what we do now, but I think we should make that > a policy; make sure the code is as generic as possible and help any user > support their favorite platform. All that said, yes ubuntu and the main > free RHEL clone is reasonable. We have support for rocky and suse now, in > different levels of tested "tm" and of course ubuntu. > > PS. I don't think we need to drop centos 8. It will get less tlc and > testing/bashing, but no reason to not let it in and let users make their > hands dirty on it. > > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 9:13 AM Wei ZHOU <ustcweiz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Agree with Sven. > > > > CentOS 8 and CentOS Stream 8 are different. We should support CentOS 8 at > > least in 4.16.1.0, and recommend users to use RHEL or Rocky instead as > we > > will drop CentOS 8 support in a future release. > > > > -Wei > > > > On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 21:29, Sven Vogel <s.vo...@ewerk.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > So for what I know is that the last enterprise stable and ready version > > is > > > 8.X. After that it will be a stream Version. > > > A reliable system would be RHEL as a commercial one and Rocky Linux as > a > > > exact successor from CentOS or let’s say binary clone from RHEL. > > > > > > Since CloudStack support RHEL and in the newest release of Rocky there > is > > > no reason to support more CentOS Stream in the future. > > > > > > Personally. Rocky takes the place. Gregory Kurtzer a founder from > CentOS > > > was too the founder from Rocky Linux. I think it’s a good place in > > > replacement. 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Thank > > you. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Von: Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com.INVALID> > > > Gesendet: Monday, December 20, 2021 8:54:25 PM > > > An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > > > Betreff: Re: CentOS 8 EOL > > > > > > If you are suggesting that ACS picked a version of Linux, supported it > > > with an update repo and guaranteed that it would run forever under ACS > > > as long as you kept up with the ACS published updates, that might solve > > > a lot of problems for system administrators. > > > At least there would be a "recommended" Linux that ACS guaranteed would > > > run under Cloudstack. > > > > > > Are there a lot of different functionalities in the various Linux > > > versions that make a difference when running applications under > > Cloudstack? > > > > > > Can one pick a Linux distribution that would run all the apps that 95% > > > of Cloudstack users actually need? It seems that a lot of the > > > differences in Linux distributions are in the desktop apps. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > On 2021-12-20 10:18, Nathan McGarvey wrote: > > > > All/any, > > > > Realistically, since CentOS Stream doesn't have minor versions, > > I'm > > > > not really sure how you *could* support it. It would be like > supporting > > > > CentOS 7.0-7.9, but not knowing which version someone is running. > You'd > > > > have to only support the "latest" version as of <date/time>, which > > might > > > > be chaos. > > > > > > > > Both Rocky and Alma have fairly decent corporate backers, at > least > > > > for the immediate term. (Alma being their parent company pledging > > > > 1M/year at least until 2029 to finish out the 8 release cycle, and > > Rocky > > > > has about 2M/year at the moment, but could flex more.) > > > > Even Oracle, with their RHEL rebuild could be used in a similar > > > > manner, though I'd probably not recommend them due to their long > track > > > > record of open-source interactions being less-than-ideal. > > > > > > > > Perhaps ACS can just pick one of the rebuilds (E.g. Rocky), but > > > > actually publish stuff as just "EL" like EPEL does? It shouldn't > really > > > > matter, aside from /etc/os-release files and such. Perhaps ACS can do > > > > what many utilities do and make a "OS Family" determination (Ref: > > > > puppet, ansible, etc.) Instead of a strict "exact same" OS > requirement. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Nathan McGarvey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/16/21 10:40 AM, Nicolas Vazquez wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > > > >> > > > >> CentOS 8 will reach EOL on 31st December this year - > > > https://www.centos.org/centos-linux-eol/ > > > >> > > > >> Opening this thread for discussion on the actions needed: should we > > > drop support on the next 4.16.1 release and onwards? > > > >> > > > >> Regards, > > > >> Nicolas Vazquez > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > Ron Wheeler > > > Artifact Software > > > 438-345-3369 > > > rwhee...@artifact-software.com > > > > > > > > -- > Daan >
