Agree with Sven.

CentOS 8 and CentOS Stream 8 are different. We should support CentOS 8 at
least in 4.16.1.0, and recommend users to use RHEL or Rocky  instead as we
will drop CentOS 8 support in a future release.

-Wei

On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 21:29, Sven Vogel <s.vo...@ewerk.com> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> So for what I know is that the last enterprise stable and ready version is
> 8.X. After that it will be a stream Version.
> A reliable system would be RHEL as a commercial one and Rocky Linux as a
> exact successor from CentOS or let’s say binary clone from RHEL.
>
> Since CloudStack support RHEL and in the newest release of Rocky there is
> no reason to support more CentOS Stream in the future.
>
> Personally. Rocky takes the place. Gregory Kurtzer a founder from CentOS
> was too the founder from Rocky Linux. I think it’s a good place in
> replacement. The move from Red Hat was Open Source mind not a good decision
> but from financial aspect a good move but it was to be expected.
>
> Cheers
>
> Sven
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> Von: Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com.INVALID>
> Gesendet: Monday, December 20, 2021 8:54:25 PM
> An: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Betreff: Re: CentOS 8 EOL
>
> If you are suggesting that ACS picked a version of Linux, supported it
> with an update repo and guaranteed that it would run forever under ACS
> as long as you kept up with the ACS published updates, that might solve
> a lot of problems for system administrators.
> At least there would be a "recommended" Linux that ACS guaranteed would
> run under Cloudstack.
>
> Are there a lot of different functionalities in the various Linux
> versions that make a difference when running applications under Cloudstack?
>
> Can one pick a Linux distribution that would run all the apps that 95%
> of Cloudstack users actually need? It seems that a lot of the
> differences in Linux distributions are in the desktop apps.
>
> Ron
>
> On 2021-12-20 10:18, Nathan McGarvey wrote:
> > All/any,
> >      Realistically, since CentOS Stream doesn't have minor versions, I'm
> > not really sure how you *could* support it. It would be like supporting
> > CentOS 7.0-7.9, but not knowing which version someone is running. You'd
> > have to only support the "latest" version as of <date/time>, which might
> > be chaos.
> >
> >      Both Rocky and Alma have fairly decent corporate backers, at least
> > for the immediate term. (Alma being their parent company pledging
> > 1M/year at least until 2029 to finish out the 8 release cycle, and Rocky
> > has about 2M/year at the moment, but could flex more.)
> >      Even Oracle, with their RHEL rebuild could be used in a similar
> > manner, though I'd probably not recommend them due to their long track
> > record of open-source interactions being less-than-ideal.
> >
> >      Perhaps ACS can just pick one of the rebuilds (E.g. Rocky), but
> > actually publish stuff as just "EL" like EPEL does? It shouldn't really
> > matter, aside from /etc/os-release files and such. Perhaps ACS can do
> > what many utilities do and make a "OS Family" determination (Ref:
> > puppet, ansible, etc.) Instead of a strict "exact same" OS requirement.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Nathan McGarvey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/16/21 10:40 AM, Nicolas Vazquez wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> CentOS 8 will reach EOL on 31st December this year -
> https://www.centos.org/centos-linux-eol/
> >>
> >> Opening this thread for discussion on the actions needed: should we
> drop support on the next 4.16.1 release and onwards?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Nicolas Vazquez
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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