Hi All,

I'd agree that we need something that people can really do stuff in.  I have 
been using the ubuntu cloud image lately (for testing config drive as it 
happens) because it has cloud init in it 😊 by default.  They are about 300MB to 
download.

https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/



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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrija Panic <andrija.pa...@gmail.com> 
Sent: 12 July 2018 13:42
To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Update default template from CentOS 5.5 to CentOS 7

Not a dev here :) but from my point of view as a user - I would agree with what 
Dag said - it is used mainly to validate ACS installation, otherwise it is 
(will be) mostly useless for production - and that is anyway not the goal of 
this template. - so again just to quickly spin a VM as proof of successful 
install (or quickly spin apache/nginx for a demo of some network function like 
port forwarding etc)

I would just advise on making sure that OS type (if you choose centos7) is not 
Centos 7.0 since (at least in acs 4.8) this means IDE and intel NIC (I'm on 
KVM).

Same was true with centos 6.0 OS type - all IDE/intel nic, while centos
6.1-6.5 OS types were properly VirtIO "hardware". I just assume in 4.11 there 
is also new centos 7.1-7.x as OS type with also VirtIO "hardware".

Hope that makes sense.

Cheers





On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 14:14 Dag Sonstebo <dag.sonst...@shapeblue.com> wrote:

> Hi Daan,
>
> Appreciate this – but we have to take the use case and audience into 
> account. If we are to include templates like we have done in the past 
> then the purpose for those is to give end users a starting point for 
> free and without having to spin up their own templates. We can and 
> should have a discussion around this – but as a starting point I would 
> say they need to
> be:
>
> - A server OS
> - License free
> - Ready to host light workloads with a few install steps – MySQL, 
> Nginx, etc.
>
> So – in my opinion this points to either a minimal CentOS or Ubuntu 
> server template – and my vote would be for CentOS7. Machninia is great 
> by all means – and it helps us techies and developers out - but it’s 
> built to be a lightweight test bench and doesn’t really give the end user 
> value.
>
> Regards,
> Dag Sonstebo
> Cloud Architect
> ShapeBlue
>
> On 12/07/2018, 11:12, "Daan Hoogland" <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     sorry, if I wasn't clear Dag. I meant to say let's add macchinina. My
>     preference for a heavy weight would be fedora btw, however 
> macchinina suits
>     my needs in many cases. It is very small and is not hurting anyone 
> if we
>     include it.
>
>     On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Dag Sonstebo < 
> dag.sonst...@shapeblue.com>
>     wrote:
>
>     > +1 for updating to CentOS7
>     > -1 for Machinina – they are great for quickly spinning up a 
> basic VM, but
>     > personally I find them too limited when I want to just get a VM 
> up and
>     > quickly install some tools for a demo or test.
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Dag Sonstebo
>     > Cloud Architect
>     > ShapeBlue
>     >
>     > On 10/07/2018, 21:08, "Daan Hoogland" <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>     >
>     >     how about the macchinina images as build in? At least for
> development
>     > those
>     >     are very convenient.
>     >
>     >     On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 9:59 PM, Gabriel Beims Bräscher <
>     >     gabrasc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>     >
>     >     > You are right Rafael, I was not clear with the "*(KVM)*". The
> idea
>     > would be
>     >     > to update others as well ;)
>     >     >
>     >     > 2018-07-10 16:34 GMT-03:00 Rafael Weingärtner <
>     > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com
>     >     > >:
>     >     >
>     >     > > That looks a good idea, to at least, update the current
> default
>     > template
>     >     > > that we ship in. However, we should update not only the KVM
>     > template, but
>     >     > > also XenServer and VMware, right?
>     >     > > Can we host image for these operating systems? The CentOS 5.5
>     > images are
>     >     > > being hosted at http://download.cloudstack.org.
>     >     > >
>     >     > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Gabriel Beims Bräscher <
>     >     > > gabrasc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>     >     > >
>     >     > > > Hello,
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > > I would like to propose updating our current default VM
> template
>     >     > "CentOS
>     >     > > > 5.5(64-bit) no GUI (KVM)" to a newer version (e.g. CentOS
> 7). I
>     > also
>     >     > > think
>     >     > > > that we could benefit from a wider set of templates
> offering also
>     >     > Debian,
>     >     > > > Ubuntu, and Fedora.
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > > Cheers,
>     >     > > > Gabriel.
>     >     > > >
>     >     > >
>     >     > >
>     >     > >
>     >     > > --
>     >     > > Rafael Weingärtner
>     >     > >
>     >     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     --
>     >     Daan
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > dag.sonst...@shapeblue.com
>     > www.shapeblue.com
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>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>
>     --
>     Daan
>
>
>
> dag.sonst...@shapeblue.com
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