Understand your point. I work for my own company so don't have the issues mentioned. Agree that others may.
> On 10 Jul 2017, at 22:23, Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote: > > Some employment agreements give ALL work done while employed to the employer > which makes the CCLA required in some cases even if the work is being done on > your own time.. > > Not everyone needs to have a CCLA for their company but people working for > CloudOps, Shapeblue and other which are allowing their staff to work on > Apache as part of their jobs must have one on file. > > Ron > >> On 10/07/2017 4:27 PM, Alex Hitchins wrote: >> That was my understanding. I'm working on this on my own time, so I have no >> legal concerns over the ownership of work. >> >> I understand it's probably worthwhile in the long run but adds another step >> people may consider too much bother to make a one line change to a URL. >> >> >> Alexander Hitchins >> ------------------------ >> E: a...@alexhitchins.com >> W: alexhitchins.com >> M: 07788 423 969 >> T: 01892 523 587 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com] >> Sent: 10 July 2017 19:21 >> To: Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com>; dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Developer Guide - Current Setup Guide? >> >> They do not need to be a committer of software. >> I support the documentation in a number of projects where I am not a >> committer. >> >> The ACL does give you any rights. >> It only says that you agree that the rights to ANYTHING that you contribute >> to a project belong to Apache. >> >> >> Ron >> >> >>> On 10/07/2017 1:50 PM, Will Stevens wrote: >>> While I agree with some of your points Ron, we also need to make sure >>> that we are setup to be able to take advantage of motivated people >>> contributing (especially around documentation) without first requiring >>> that they become a committer. That is a bit of a chicken and egg >>> problem because no one will accept a new committer with zero activity, >>> so if we didn't give this type of access, then an interested >>> contributor would never be able to support the project in the ways >>> know how. >>> >>> We need as much support on the supporting documentation as we can get, >>> and we don't have the convenience of mechanisms like 'pull requests' >>> on wiki content. >>> >>> My 0.02$ anyway... >>> >>> *Will Stevens* >>> CTO >>> >>> <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Ron Wheeler >>> <rwhee...@artifact-software.com >>> <mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com>> wrote: >>> >>> You may want to own the wiki content as well as the software. >>> >>> A company may want to quote the wiki or incorporate some of it >>> into their documentation without having to get the rights from >>> each person who contributed to the page. >>> >>> >>> Even more complicated if someone posts a design or an enhancement >>> and then claims to own it and patent it. >>> >>> It is good practice to make sure that Apache owns it all (code, >>> docs, test cases, enhancements, patches) and that you can use it >>> all without legal problems under the Apache license. >>> >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> On 10/07/2017 12:23 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: >>> >>> Why do you say that Ron? You need one to become a committer. >>> for the >>> wiki we need to recognise you as a contributor. I think you >>> need no >>> more. >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Ron Wheeler >>> <rwhee...@artifact-software.com >>> <mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Alex, >>> Do you have a CLA on file with Apache. >>> You should have one to contribute to the wiki. >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> On 10/07/2017 10:42 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote: >>> >>> create your account on cwiki and we can give you access >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Alex Hitchins >>> <a...@alexhitchins.com <mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Please let me know if there is anything I can do >>> to help with this. >>> >>> I have an open PR on the repo readme.md >>> <http://readme.md>, minor documentation change but >>> somehow is breaking the build. My guess is it's >>> something unrelated on >>> master. >>> >>> On 8 Jul 2017, at 22:37, Will Stevens >>> <williamstev...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> We need to amend. As of 4.10 we are on jdk 8. >>> >>> I will have to review it and see what needs to >>> be done to bring it up to >>> date. >>> >>> On Jul 8, 2017 4:46 PM, "Alex Hitchins" >>> <a...@alexhitchins.com >>> <mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Asking as I want to be sure I'm getting myself >>> setup correctly. >>> >>> I appreciate setup guides may not necessitate >>> lots of amendments however >>> 4 >>> years seemed a long time to go with nothing. >>> Are we still on JDK 6 for >>> example? >>> >>> More than happy to amend Confluence with >>> updates as I come across them. >>> >>> >>> Alexander Hitchins >>> ------------------------ >>> E: a...@alexhitchins.com >>> <mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com> >>> W: alexhitchins.com <http://alexhitchins.com> >>> M: 07788 423 969 >>> T: 01892 523 587 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Daan Hoogland >>> [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>] >>> Sent: 07 July 2017 21:08 >>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org >>> <mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org>> >>> Subject: Re: Developer Guide - Current Setup >>> Guide? >>> >>> Why do you ask, Alex? Is something not working? >>> >>> Biligual auto correct use. Read at your own >>> risico >>> >>> On 7 Jul 2017 9:54 pm, "Alex Hitchins" >>> <a...@alexhitchins.com >>> <mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> >>> >>> I note this was last amended 2013, is >>> there a better/more recent >>> resource for the aspiring CloudStack >>> developer? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/ >>> >>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/> >>> Setting+up+CloudStack >>> +Development+Environment+on+Linux >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Alexander Hitchins >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> E: a...@alexhitchins.com >>> <mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com> >>> >>> W: alexhitchins.com <http://alexhitchins.com> >>> >>> M: 07788 423 969 >>> >>> T: 01892 523 587 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > -- > Ron Wheeler > President > Artifact Software Inc > email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com > skype: ronaldmwheeler > phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >
