They do not need to be a committer of software.
I support the documentation in a number of projects where I am not a committer.

The ACL does give you any rights.
It only says that you agree that the rights to ANYTHING that you contribute to a project belong to Apache.


Ron


On 10/07/2017 1:50 PM, Will Stevens wrote:
While I agree with some of your points Ron, we also need to make sure that we are setup to be able to take advantage of motivated people contributing (especially around documentation) without first requiring that they become a committer. That is a bit of a chicken and egg problem because no one will accept a new committer with zero activity, so if we didn't give this type of access, then an interested contributor would never be able to support the project in the ways know how.

We need as much support on the supporting documentation as we can get, and we don't have the convenience of mechanisms like 'pull requests' on wiki content.

My 0.02$ anyway...

*Will Stevens*
CTO

<https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com <mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com>> wrote:

    You may want to own the wiki content as well as the software.

    A company may want to quote the wiki or incorporate some of it
    into their documentation without having to get the rights from
    each person who contributed to the page.


    Even more complicated if someone posts a design or an enhancement
    and then claims to own it and patent it.

    It is good practice to make sure that Apache owns it all (code,
    docs, test cases, enhancements, patches)  and that you can use it
    all without legal problems under the Apache license.


    Ron


    On 10/07/2017 12:23 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote:

        Why do you say that Ron? You need one to become a committer.
        for the
        wiki we need to recognise you as a contributor. I think you
        need no
        more.

        On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Ron Wheeler
        <rwhee...@artifact-software.com
        <mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com>> wrote:

            Alex,
            Do you have a CLA on file with Apache.
            You should have one to contribute to the wiki.

            Ron

            On 10/07/2017 10:42 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote:

                create your account on cwiki and we can give you access

                On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Alex Hitchins
                <a...@alexhitchins.com <mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com>>
                wrote:

                    Please let me know if there is anything I can do
                    to help with this.

                    I have an open PR on the repo readme.md
                    <http://readme.md>, minor documentation change but
                    somehow is breaking the build. My guess is it's
                    something unrelated on
                    master.

                        On 8 Jul 2017, at 22:37, Will Stevens
                        <williamstev...@gmail.com
                        <mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                        We need to amend. As of 4.10 we are on jdk 8.

                        I will have to review it and see what needs to
                        be done to bring it up to
                        date.

                        On Jul 8, 2017 4:46 PM, "Alex Hitchins"
                        <a...@alexhitchins.com
                        <mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com>> wrote:

                        Asking as I want to be sure I'm getting myself
                        setup correctly.

                        I appreciate setup guides may not necessitate
                        lots of amendments however
                        4
                        years seemed a long time to go with nothing.
                        Are we still on JDK 6 for
                        example?

                        More than happy to amend Confluence with
                        updates as I come across them.


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                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Daan Hoogland
                        [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com
                        <mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>]
                        Sent: 07 July 2017 21:08
                        To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org
                        <mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org>>
                        Subject: Re: Developer Guide - Current Setup
                        Guide?

                        Why do you ask, Alex? Is something not working?

                        Biligual auto correct use.  Read at your own
                        risico

                            On 7 Jul 2017 9:54 pm, "Alex Hitchins"
                            <a...@alexhitchins.com
                            <mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com>> wrote:

                            Hello all,



                            I note this was last amended 2013, is
                            there a better/more recent
                            resource for the aspiring CloudStack
                            developer?



                            
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/
                            
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/>
                            Setting+up+CloudStack
                            +Development+Environment+on+Linux









                            Alexander Hitchins

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