I like this idea as well. I would be willing to test both VyOS and Cloudrouter 
if you need an active service to test with. Specifically I am looking to test 
IPv6 since I provide IPv6 /64 spaces to my customers and I am having to provide 
it via an external router at the moment which has a lot of manual 
configurations.

Let me know if I can help in anyway.

-----Original Message-----
From: Will Stevens [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:21 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Replacing the VR

Ya. If we go this way, I like the approach of building the integration and 
putting it through its paces as a stand alone VR before we consider replacing 
the old VR and making it the default.

On Sep 13, 2016 6:52 AM, "Jayapal Uradi" <jayapal.ur...@accelerite.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Instead of replacing the VR in first place we should add 
> VyOS/cloudrouter as provider. Once it is stable, network offerings (on 
> upgrade) can be updated to use it and we can drop the VR if we want at that 
> release onwards.
>
> VR is stabilized over a period of time and some of them are running 
> without issues.  When we replicate the ACS VR features in new solution 
> it takes some to find the missing pieces (hidden bugs).
>
> Thanks,
> Jayapal
>
> > On Sep 13, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Nux! <
>
> > n...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I like the idea.
> >
> > Cloudrouter looks really promising, I'm not too keen on VyOS (it 
> > doesn't
> have a proper http api etc).
> >
> > --
> > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> >
> > Nux!
> > www.nux.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Will Stevens" <williamstev...@gmail.com>
> >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> Sent: Monday, 12 September, 2016 21:20:11
> >> Subject: [DISCUSS] Replacing the VR
> >
> >> *Disclaimer:* This is a thought experiment and should be treated as
> such.
> >> Please weigh in with the good and bad of this idea...
> >>
> >> A couple of us have been discussing the idea of potentially 
> >> replacing
> the
> >> ACS VR with the VyOS [1] (Open Source Vyatta VM).  There may be a
> license
> >> issue because I think it is licensed under GPL, but for the sake of 
> >> discussion, let's assume we can overcome any license issues.
> >>
> >> I have spent some time recently with the VyOS and I have to admit, 
> >> I was pretty impressed.  It is simple and intuitive and it gives 
> >> you a lot
> more
> >> options for auditing the configuration etc...
> >>
> >> Items of potential interest:
> >> - Clean up our current VR script spaghetti to a simpler more 
> >> auditable configuration workflow.
> >> - Gives a cleaner path for IPv6 support.
> >> - Handles VPN configuration via the same configuration interface.
> >> - Support for OSPF & BGP.
> >> - VPN support through OpenVPN & StrongSwan.
> >> - Easily supports HA (redundant routers) through VRRP.
> >> - VXLAN support.
> >> - Transaction based changes to the VR with rollback on error.
> >>
> >> Items that could be difficult to solve:
> >> - Userdata password reset workflow and implementation.
> >> - Upgrade process.
> >>
> >> The VyOS is not the only option if we were to consider this approach.
> >> Another option, which I don't know as well, would be CloudRouter 
> >> (AGPL
> >> license) [2] which is purely API driven.
> >>
> >> Anyway, would love to hear your thoughts...
> >>
> >> Will
> >>
> >> [1] https://vyos.io/
> >> [2] https://cloudrouter.org/
>
>
>
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