> Op 5 juli 2016 om 21:16 schreef John Burwell <john.burw...@shapeblue.com>:
> 
> 
> Wido,
> 
> I don’t think that Rohit is advocating expanding the 4.9.0 scope.  Instead, 
> he is saying that proceeding with LTS on 4.8.0.1 would be counterproductive.  
> 4.8.0 was released in January meaning that 4.9 will contain nearly 6 months 
> of defect fixes and enhancements.  Had we cut LTS last Friday, we would have 
> faced the choice of attempting to backport all of the defect changes from 
> master to LTS or simply not including them.  Therefore, I think we all agree 
> that we should release 4.9.0.0 as soon as possible.  My hope is that we can 
> complete testing and RC voting by 15 July 2016 in order to cut LTS and move 
> forward with the development of 4.10.0.0.  Am I correct in my understanding 
> Rohit and your thoughts regarding 4.9?
> 

Ah, yes, I understand. I think I understand Rohit wrongly, thanks for 
explaining.

Your timeline seems good to me.

Wido

> Thanks,
> -John
> 
> > 
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>  
> 
> On Jul 5, 2016, at 5:25 AM, Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> Op 4 juli 2016 om 18:17 schreef Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I think 4.9 brings some new features, enhancements and improvements that 
> >> people would appreciate in a LTS release. Many of them cannot be simply 
> >> backported and 2 weeks will be far shorter to identify, backport and 
> >> regression-test all those changes.
> >> 
> > 
> > But that way we keep finding reasons to delay 4.9 and make that the LTS. 
> > 4.10 afterwards will have other cool features, etc. That will stay.
> > 
> >> 
> >> From my personal experience, I've done a lot of backporting in 4.3, then 
> >> did maintenance work in 4.5. I think it's still worth it to wait for few 
> >> weeks to get 4.9.0 out of the door and have LTS based on 4.9.0 release.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> If Will is not able to find time to work on 4.9 release, maybe someone 
> >> else can takeover and help with the 4.9 release by 15th July (at least get 
> >> some RCs up for testing and voting)? LTS can be 4.9.1 etc.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Regards.
> >> 
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl>
> >> Sent: 04 July 2016 15:32:45
> >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; John Burwell
> >> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] 2016-2017 Release Cycle and Calendar
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> Op 4 juli 2016 om 6:57 schreef John Burwell <john.burw...@shapeblue.com>:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> All,
> >>> 
> >>> Following up on a our discussions about LTS [1], post 4.9 releases [2], 
> >>> and 5.0.0/6.0.0 [3], I have assembled a release plan for the next 18-20 
> >>> months in the wiki [4].  My original proposal assumed by that 4.9 would 
> >>> be released by 1 July.  I have adjusted the timelines assuming that we 
> >>> will complete the release by 15 July.  My thinking is that the number of 
> >>> defect fixes present in 4.9 and 4.8.1 would require more than 2 weeks of 
> >>> work to backport to a 4.8-based LTS.  Therefore, I have shifted the LTS 
> >>> cutoff dates from 1 Jan and 1 July to 15 Jan and 15 July.
> >>> 
> >>> Once we gain consensus on the release cycle and calendar, I will cleanup 
> >>> the wiki to move completed release plans to an archive area and remove 
> >>> obsolete release process documentation.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Looks good to me. It's time that 4.9 is released and shifting to July 15th 
> >> looks good.
> >> 
> >> Overall your release schedule proposal looks good to me, so I'd say +1 on 
> >> the proposal.
> >> 
> >> Wido
> >> 
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> -John
> >>> 
> >>> [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/zzrjldiryhy3ygfk
> >>> [2]: http://markmail.org/thread/7rv3jwz4hzf3yplf
> >>> [3]: http://markmail.org/thread/c24hvshz3z4babjb
> >>> [4]: 
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/%5BPROPOSAL%5D+2016-2017+Release+Cycle+and+Calendar<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/[PROPOSAL]+2016-2017+Release+Cycle+and+Calendar>
> >>> 
> >>> john.burw...@shapeblue.com
> >>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
> >>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London VA WC2N 4HSUK
> >>> @shapeblue
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com 
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