@somesh you message is not helping at all.

The problems is being worked on by a lot of people. Folks know the current 
blockers and I am expecting to see PR come in to fix them in the coming days. 
We will then see what the results of BVT are.

Please read the full thread before replying.


> On Sep 30, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Somesh Naidu <somesh.na...@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
>> To sum it up: it’s easy to sit-down and wait for other people to work on 
>> features/test/fixes.
> 
> Wilder - essentially are you saying these failures are due to a. Ramnath and 
> folks didn't contribute at the time and b. you did but weren't able to 
> completely nail it down?
> 
> Raja/Ramnath - would it help and be better for the community as well as you 
> if you'd just let ACS build be in the current state (as per you unstable 
> router), create your own branch, implement your approach and fix the router 
> (stable as per your opinion) for your users.
> 
> This way everyone would be happy.
> 
> Regards,
> Somesh
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilder Rodrigues [mailto:wrodrig...@schubergphilis.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:48 AM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: VR refactoring, concerns and a way out ? 
> 
> Raja,
> 
> A nice way out would be to have more people knowing about coding and git. I 
> have no idea from where you got this non-sense approach, but I would say it 
> can be compared with the previous git flow the community had: not tests; no 
> PRs; no review.
> 
> @Ramanath: you, and many others, should have pitched in when the code was 
> merged, months ago, and when effort to help testing was requested.
> 
> To sum it up: it’s easy to sit-down and wait for other people to work on 
> features/test/fixes.
> 
> Cheers,
> Wilder
> 
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2015, at 14:33, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Ramanath Katru <ramanath.ka...@citrix.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My vote is for the approach no.1 - to backout completely. Most of VR 
>>> functionalities are broken and are in a mess to say the least. It 
>>> definitely will take some time and effort from several folks to get it to a 
>>> stable state.
>>> 
>> 
>> So which VR changes are we talking about. If it was merged it should mean 
>> that tests passed and it worked at least in a controlled environment.
>> 
>>> Ram Katru
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Raja Pullela [mailto:raja.pull...@citrix.com] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:06 PM
>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> Subject: VR refactoring, concerns and a way out ? 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I understand a concern on the VR changes was raised earlier.  My apologies 
>>> to restart this thread again.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, my last conversation with Jayapal, who has fixed/have been fixing 
>>> lot of VR issues, about the VR issues and he is pretty concerned about the 
>>> refactoring that has happened.  I have had the same concern for sometime 
>>> now  (VR issues have been on the list of issues to be looked into for at 
>>> least 4+ weeks) and wanted to see a good solution for this- with VR being 
>>> very fundamental to the system.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Couple of solutions/proposals –
>>> 
>>> 1)      Back out the VR changes – Pros: VR has been stable for some time 
>>> and it is working well.
>>> 
>>> 2)      Continue to fix/stability VR changes -   Concerns: is the unknowns, 
>>> what we will find out and how long this will take to stabilize the VR 
>>> functionality.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please chime in if you have any thoughts or concerns around this,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> 
>>> Raja
>> 
> 

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