Sysadmins generally enjoy a single source of truth about what packages are installed on a machine. Telling folks to use gem, pypi and rpm/yum leads to many, occasionally conflicting, reports of what is actually installed on a machine. Hence the suggestion for OS-native packages.
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Thanks for sharing. ec2stack is available from pypi, so while we can build > debs/rpms it can be easily installed using “pip install ec2stack”. The only > migration path required by your users would be to change the consumer URL and > re-register apikey/secretkey. > >> On 01-May-2015, at 3:11 pm, Jeff Moody <j...@fifthecho.com> wrote: >> >> As this change will likely affect Citrix CloudPlatform, I can say that >> at Datapipe we offer the AWS API endpoint to customers because we had >> a request for it in the past. It was used once by a customer who then >> changed to using the native CloudStack API. When this change hits a >> release of Citrix CloudPlatform, I'm sure we'll probably deploy >> ec2stack, but I don't see that (and our support team doesn't see that) >> as a real problem - especially if RPM/Debs of the ec2stack code can be >> built and distributed. >> >> On Fri, 2015-05-01 at 14:10 +0200, sebgoa wrote: >>> On May 1, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> OK, I do not want to push a formal point, just warning. >>>> >>> >>> understood. let's see if other folks are worried about ec2interface >>> upgrade/change. >>> >>>> Op vr 1 mei 2015 om 09:57 schreef Wido den Hollander < >>>> w...@widodh.nl>: >>>> >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 01-05-15 09:17, sebgoa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Rohit Yadav >>>>>> <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30-Apr-2015, at 7:43 pm, Daan Hoogland >>>>>>>> <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We will have to provide a migration path if anybody is >>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>> using it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The migration path would be documenting the change as part >>>>>>> of the >>>>>>> release notes to simply switch from using the consumer URL >>>>>>> server_ip:7080/awsapi to setting up ec2stack and consuming >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> URL server_ip:5000 (or any other configured port). Normally >>>>>>> service offerings are rather limited compared to other >>>>>>> resources, >>>>>>> when setting up ec2stack users can provide the mapping to it >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> migrate it to ec2stack using something custom like >>>>>>> cloudmonkey+bash. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The important issue to note here is that a lot of real-world >>>>>>> awsapi integration with a user's own subsystems may not >>>>>>> follow >>>>>>> any convention or be rather customised other than >>>>>>> consumption of >>>>>>> service URL and associated apikey/secretkey, so migration >>>>>>> path >>>>>>> from our end would mostly consist of documenting the changes. >>>>>>> This upgrade path may also be implemented as a script or a >>>>>>> ec2stack tool that can read cloudbridge database to get >>>>>>> useful >>>>>>> configs and service offering mappings. And, there may be some >>>>>>> changes that may not be migrated or supported due to the >>>>>>> different AWS API versions both the services support and >>>>>>> one’s >>>>>>> own custom usage/implementation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So honestly, I am not sure what there is to migrate/upgrade…. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's really a setup and folks hitting a different endpoint as >>>>>> Rohit >>>>>> mentions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Plus, I would not sweat this too much, we have talked several >>>>>> times >>>>>> about it on the ML, and I am not convinced that *anyone* >>>>>> actually >>>>>> uses awsapi, especially with 4.3 forward. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would be rather drastic on this, but if someone is using a >>>>>> piece >>>>>> of open source code that has not been touched in 2 years and >>>>>> that >>>>>> does not work with latest cloudstack release…then tough luck. >>>>>> Get >>>>>> on the ML to fix things or do the 'migration' on your own. >>>>>> >>>>>> /me does not want to bother about awsapi upgrade. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> /me doesn't want to touch that code either. In earlier threads I >>>>> always voted for letting AWSAPI go en point people towards >>>>> libcloud, >>>>> terraform, whatever. >>>>> >>>>> Wido >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Biligual auto correct use. Read at your own risico On 30 >>>>>>>> Apr >>>>>>>> 2015 19:36, "David Nalley" <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Rohit Yadav >>>>>>>>> <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I was testing awsapi with 4.5 today and it just did not >>>>>>>>>> work for me, >>>>>>>>> after few hours I gave up and used ec2stack which worked >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> of the box and certainly felt more friendly to work >>>>>>>>> with. I >>>>>>>>> remembered we discussed removing awsapi but then the >>>>>>>>> momentum >>>>>>>>> never precipitated into action, so I spent some time >>>>>>>>> today to >>>>>>>>> cleanly remove awsapi and making sure it has a cleanup >>>>>>>>> upgrade path and does not break the builds or the >>>>>>>>> packaging. >>>>>>>>> (Also found and fixed a debian build issue that someone >>>>>>>>> recently reported, noredist builds being broken) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here is the PR: >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/216 Here is a >>>>>>>>>> repo from the branch to prove that package works too: >>>>>>>>> http://packages.bhaisaab.org/cloudstack/nukeawsapi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As Sebastien has asked me to hold on this for few >>>>>>>>>> days, I >>>>>>>>>> hope to merge >>>>>>>>> this next week or later; but before that happends please >>>>>>>>> feel >>>>>>>>> free to share any comments, questions. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I haven't looked at all at the changes or the resulting >>>>>>>>> builds, but in principle, I agree. 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