On May 1, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Jeff Moody <j...@fifthecho.com> wrote: > Rohit, > > I understand and have no issues with this, however, I can forsee parts > of our support organization wanting a binary package (from Citrix) > when this change hits. > > I was just adding my $0.02 to the discussion of "does anyone use the > AWS API" and expressing that my employer has little to no concern over > this change (especially if removing the 1M lines of junk helps make a > faster, more reliable management server).
thanks for chiming in Jeff. Green light from your side then. > > On Fri, 2015-05-01 at 13:23 +0000, Rohit Yadav wrote: >> Hi Jeff, >> >> Thanks for sharing. ec2stack is available from pypi, so while we can >> build debs/rpms it can be easily installed using “pip install >> ec2stack”. The only migration path required by your users would be >> to change the consumer URL and re-register apikey/secretkey. >> >>> On 01-May-2015, at 3:11 pm, Jeff Moody <j...@fifthecho.com> wrote: >>> >>> As this change will likely affect Citrix CloudPlatform, I can say >>> that >>> at Datapipe we offer the AWS API endpoint to customers because we >>> had >>> a request for it in the past. It was used once by a customer who >>> then >>> changed to using the native CloudStack API. When this change hits a >>> release of Citrix CloudPlatform, I'm sure we'll probably deploy >>> ec2stack, but I don't see that (and our support team doesn't see >>> that) >>> as a real problem - especially if RPM/Debs of the ec2stack code >>> can be >>> built and distributed. >>> >>> On Fri, 2015-05-01 at 14:10 +0200, sebgoa wrote: >>>> On May 1, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Daan Hoogland < >>>> daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OK, I do not want to push a formal point, just warning. >>>>> >>>> >>>> understood. let's see if other folks are worried about >>>> ec2interface >>>> upgrade/change. >>>> >>>>> Op vr 1 mei 2015 om 09:57 schreef Wido den Hollander < >>>>> w...@widodh.nl>: >>>>> >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 01-05-15 09:17, sebgoa wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Rohit Yadav >>>>>>> <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 30-Apr-2015, at 7:43 pm, Daan Hoogland >>>>>>>>> <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We will have to provide a migration path if anybody is >>>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>>> using it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The migration path would be documenting the change as >>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>> release notes to simply switch from using the consumer >>>>>>>> URL >>>>>>>> server_ip:7080/awsapi to setting up ec2stack and >>>>>>>> consuming >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> URL server_ip:5000 (or any other configured port). >>>>>>>> Normally >>>>>>>> service offerings are rather limited compared to other >>>>>>>> resources, >>>>>>>> when setting up ec2stack users can provide the mapping >>>>>>>> to it >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> migrate it to ec2stack using something custom like >>>>>>>> cloudmonkey+bash. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The important issue to note here is that a lot of real >>>>>>>> -world >>>>>>>> awsapi integration with a user's own subsystems may not >>>>>>>> follow >>>>>>>> any convention or be rather customised other than >>>>>>>> consumption of >>>>>>>> service URL and associated apikey/secretkey, so migration >>>>>>>> path >>>>>>>> from our end would mostly consist of documenting the >>>>>>>> changes. >>>>>>>> This upgrade path may also be implemented as a script or >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> ec2stack tool that can read cloudbridge database to get >>>>>>>> useful >>>>>>>> configs and service offering mappings. And, there may be >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> changes that may not be migrated or supported due to the >>>>>>>> different AWS API versions both the services support and >>>>>>>> one’s >>>>>>>> own custom usage/implementation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So honestly, I am not sure what there is to >>>>>>> migrate/upgrade…. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's really a setup and folks hitting a different endpoint >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> Rohit >>>>>>> mentions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Plus, I would not sweat this too much, we have talked >>>>>>> several >>>>>>> times >>>>>>> about it on the ML, and I am not convinced that *anyone* >>>>>>> actually >>>>>>> uses awsapi, especially with 4.3 forward. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would be rather drastic on this, but if someone is using >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> piece >>>>>>> of open source code that has not been touched in 2 years >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> does not work with latest cloudstack release…then tough >>>>>>> luck. >>>>>>> Get >>>>>>> on the ML to fix things or do the 'migration' on your own. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /me does not want to bother about awsapi upgrade. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> /me doesn't want to touch that code either. In earlier >>>>>> threads I >>>>>> always voted for letting AWSAPI go en point people towards >>>>>> libcloud, >>>>>> terraform, whatever. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wido >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Biligual auto correct use. Read at your own risico On >>>>>>>>> 30 >>>>>>>>> Apr >>>>>>>>> 2015 19:36, "David Nalley" <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Rohit Yadav >>>>>>>>>> <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I was testing awsapi with 4.5 today and it just >>>>>>>>>>> did not >>>>>>>>>>> work for me, >>>>>>>>>> after few hours I gave up and used ec2stack which >>>>>>>>>> worked >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> of the box and certainly felt more friendly to work >>>>>>>>>> with. I >>>>>>>>>> remembered we discussed removing awsapi but then the >>>>>>>>>> momentum >>>>>>>>>> never precipitated into action, so I spent some time >>>>>>>>>> today to >>>>>>>>>> cleanly remove awsapi and making sure it has a >>>>>>>>>> cleanup >>>>>>>>>> upgrade path and does not break the builds or the >>>>>>>>>> packaging. >>>>>>>>>> (Also found and fixed a debian build issue that >>>>>>>>>> someone >>>>>>>>>> recently reported, noredist builds being broken) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is the PR: >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/216 Here >>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>> repo from the branch to prove that package works >>>>>>>>>>> too: >>>>>>>>>> http://packages.bhaisaab.org/cloudstack/nukeawsapi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As Sebastien has asked me to hold on this for few >>>>>>>>>>> days, I >>>>>>>>>>> hope to merge >>>>>>>>>> this next week or later; but before that happends >>>>>>>>>> please >>>>>>>>>> feel >>>>>>>>>> free to share any comments, questions. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I haven't looked at all at the changes or the >>>>>>>>>> resulting >>>>>>>>>> builds, but in principle, I agree. 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