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On 01/30/2015 04:43 PM, Logan Barfield wrote: > Hi Wido, > > I didn't see the format information for snapshots stored in the > database, so I'm assuming it references the associated volume > format. > Yes, it is. > I assume the cleanest way to get around that would be to have a > separate format field for snapshots, but that wouldn't really make > sense just for this one use case. Another way would be to just > have the restore (create template from snapshot, etc.) function > always assume QCOW2 for RBD snapshots, but that's dirty, and would > cause problems for existing snapshots. > That would be dirty, since I don't think we can actually know if a snapshpot was from a RBD volume when it's on SS. Maybe qemu-img can detect the input format? That way we don't have to specify it. > It seems like the best method would be to have the restore > function look at the actual file to get the format information > instead of pulling it from the database, though I'm not sure if > that's even possible. > I think that would be the best option indeed. > Does anyone else have any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thank You, > > Logan Barfield Tranquil Hosting > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Wido den Hollander > <w...@widodh.nl> wrote: > > > On 01/29/2015 10:05 PM, Logan Barfield wrote: >>>> Hi Wido, >>>> >>>> The relevant code for this is in: >>>> >>>> I saw that the destination format is set to QCOW2 for >>>> "createTemplateFromVolume", but in "backupSnapshot" it's set >>>> to use the format of the source image >>>> "destFile.setFormat(snapshotDisk.getFormat());" >>>> >>>> I believe just changing the "backupSnapshot" code to the use >>>> QCOW2 "destFile.setFormat(PhysicalDiskFormat.QCOW2);" will >>>> work fine. I can submit a patch for that, but I wanted to >>>> make sure there wasn't some other reason for the RAW output >>>> first. >>>> > > No, that won't work. Because the management server will then still > think it's in RAW format and store that in the database. > > It has been a long time since I looked at this. I know I did some > work in this area and made some patches. > > Wido > >>>> >>>> Thank You, >>>> >>>> Logan Barfield Tranquil Hosting >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Wido den Hollander >>>> <w...@widodh.nl> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/29/2015 05:16 PM, Logan Barfield wrote: >>>>>>> I was doing some testing earlier this week on a KVM >>>>>>> cluster, and noticed that when using S3 for secondary >>>>>>> storage snapshots on RBD primary storage take a lot >>>>>>> longer than they do with NFS primary storage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think this is due to the NFS snapshots being >>>>>>> output/uploaded in QCOW2 format, while RBD snapshots >>>>>>> are output in RAW format. It appears that even when >>>>>>> using sparse RAW files they are uploaded to S3 with the >>>>>>> 'allocated' size instead of the sparse size. >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> The problem here lies in the code in CloudStack. Since the >>>> source volume is in RAW format, the snapshot also becomes >>>> QCOW2. >>>> >>>> I remember that I wrote some patches for this, you might want >>>> to look in the Git history. >>>> >>>>>>> My question is: Is there a good reason for RBD >>>>>>> snapshots to be output as RAW instead of QCOW2? It >>>>>>> appears that QCOW2 templates are automatically >>>>>>> converted when deploying them as RBD, so that shouldn't >>>>>>> be a problem. The only downside I can think of would >>>>>>> be having to convert the RAW RBD data to QCOW2 as an >>>>>>> extra step when creating snapshots, but even that seems >>>>>>> like it would take less time than uploading the RAW >>>>>>> images to S3. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Like I said, I think I wrote patches for this. Qemu-img is >>>> used to convert the RAW RBD into the snapshot, so QCOW2 >>>> should be no problem as output format. But the code in >>>> CloudStack seems to assume that the snapshot volume is always >>>> the same format as the source. >>>> >>>> Wido >>>> >>>> P.S.: I'm on vacation in Norway at the moment, so I'm pretty >>>> laggy with replying. >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank You, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Logan Barfield Tranquil Hosting >>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUzc2zAAoJEAGbWC3bPspCLFAP/0FuGqOTlo4DW40tP4v70zQ5 cjF1s9rg9Afd4OGc6KmcG2OxR/A68xMuHxJCPwVZjFlcNLMEWx8goxmJd9qLQaMM es1xHynmSO3owhA9d7bRhvfL4M9mf/w/oSn1IQZ5l9v7bJX9y5iGuPkMPlBT5yej yFWA92AAEVgne1J/E4JvoZbDoyAYVecrDPmFD8oP/9R2I7MlUr5134aShBIhJPM/ UgsY06dKfAWI2cW5vZxzw4haNTk68BMgjp6IBkirHqLL1wZa7R83c8/ygXsbvStJ z5bLrxtLtwy6d3utjwJkfdtdnAfuiqZFOKdgxvhlS30Q0Y2XGLXfA3+DLVGmDBF5 xksxiAvhpvxkJIMYZx5icFJmNVu5NiaNn6yKRTkJzA687emF4fSjn1pgTHMp+hhB gkZcYiazrrdFU0ibFkQMNWhT80Pc9spcJEMFkX32GnXTK8EOR7hqRpGrS1LLQjnk XrukOOOjlHnQnRS8kTP9y2Rr5zBUnB6kVwd8DYCJGYdQUPlHaMOGPC9che7HzmFg qzNPHm/WakWotlAldYOPFzmoV16jzF+j6lpgnREZMTq3DNVk6fRH4vzjIvlWzsbF Rrq+7KbNxYc0SJfmTBh0jV/Zpm85ed0kYzXBnekq8ryItF1e2P5t4zoVcC7XHb9n Y2Qvi+YYYZPW6fYIiznr =TcvA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----