Yeah, I assume you would use the column ID of the user table (as opposed to
the UUID of the given user), right?

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:

> Min, you’re right I don’t propose to change the IAM model just some
> additional data that notes who *actually* owns the resource (VM, volume,
> etc.) in an account which can be useful for sysadmins to list resource by
> userid etc.
>
> I can understand the hesitation and the side effects such a refactoring
> can produce, so I think the best would be to add user_id (uuid) columns and
> change only the API/query layer.
>
> Mike: I don’t propose to use user name but uuids so they are unique. My
> concern was adding user_id column to say vm_instance table denormalizes
> data as that table already has domain_id and account_id in it and as Rajani
> suggested earlier those two are not needed as using user_id one can find
> account_id and domain_id. I guess, the easiest way would be to just add an
> additional user_id column.
>
> Cheers.
>
> > On 15-Nov-2014, at 12:14 am, Min Chen <min.c...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rohit, If I understood you correctly, the user_id column is only used for
> > listing resources to indicate which user is the real owner/creator of the
> > resource, but you don't want to change CloudStack account-level
> permission
> > model to user-level permission model, right? If so, the change will be
> > smaller, maybe some Response classes, which should not involve too many
> > business layer change. I will hesitate to really change CloudStack IAM
> > model though.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -min
> >
> > On 11/14/14 10:35 AM, "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Min,
> >>
> >> Good to know. What do you propose we do moving forward. Do a refactoring
> >> run to fix it or leave it as it is and perhaps add user_id columns to
> few
> >> resources that are more useful for sysadmins such as vm_instance table.
> >>
> >>> On 14-Nov-2014, at 11:49 pm, Min Chen <min.c...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Rohit,
> >>>
> >>> I think that the historic reason for this is that CloudStack is only
> >>> doing IAM access permission check on account level, user is only login
> >>> authentication purpose. That is why we will see that all our CloudStack
> >>> resource owner field is an account, since that is the only information
> >>> used for controlling whether you have some permissions to the resource.
> >>> Thanks
> >>> -min
> >>>
> >>> On 11/14/14 12:53 AM, "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> All CloudStack DB entities (VM, storage, network etc.) have an owner
> >>>> field which is mostly the account. An account can have multiple users
> >>>> so
> >>>> just by looking at the resource (say VM) it¹s not possible to make out
> >>>> which user in the account (owner or account_id field in the db row of
> >>>> the
> >>>> entity) created it. CloudStack users may want to know this information
> >>>> for at least entities such as VMs and Volumes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Historically, why is the account owner of an entity and not a user? If
> >>>> user were the owner, we could easily get the account Id using the user
> >>>> Id.
> >>>>
> >>>> One solution to fix this problem is to refactor and replace Account
> >>>> (interface) usage with UserAccount (interface) usage, fix the DAO and
> >>>> resource layer, and add columns in the schema. This gets us all the
> >>>> information we need to determine domainId, AccountId and Id (the user
> >>>> ID). Should we do it for all entities or just keep status quo (use
> >>>> account as owners), or just fix it on-demand basis for specific
> >>>> entities
> >>>> such as for user VMs [1].
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-7908
> >>>>
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