Min, you’re right I don’t propose to change the IAM model just some additional data that notes who *actually* owns the resource (VM, volume, etc.) in an account which can be useful for sysadmins to list resource by userid etc.
I can understand the hesitation and the side effects such a refactoring can produce, so I think the best would be to add user_id (uuid) columns and change only the API/query layer. Mike: I don’t propose to use user name but uuids so they are unique. My concern was adding user_id column to say vm_instance table denormalizes data as that table already has domain_id and account_id in it and as Rajani suggested earlier those two are not needed as using user_id one can find account_id and domain_id. I guess, the easiest way would be to just add an additional user_id column. Cheers. > On 15-Nov-2014, at 12:14 am, Min Chen <min.c...@citrix.com> wrote: > > Rohit, If I understood you correctly, the user_id column is only used for > listing resources to indicate which user is the real owner/creator of the > resource, but you don't want to change CloudStack account-level permission > model to user-level permission model, right? If so, the change will be > smaller, maybe some Response classes, which should not involve too many > business layer change. I will hesitate to really change CloudStack IAM > model though. > > Thanks > -min > > On 11/14/14 10:35 AM, "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > >> Hi Min, >> >> Good to know. What do you propose we do moving forward. Do a refactoring >> run to fix it or leave it as it is and perhaps add user_id columns to few >> resources that are more useful for sysadmins such as vm_instance table. >> >>> On 14-Nov-2014, at 11:49 pm, Min Chen <min.c...@citrix.com> wrote: >>> >>> Rohit, >>> >>> I think that the historic reason for this is that CloudStack is only >>> doing IAM access permission check on account level, user is only login >>> authentication purpose. That is why we will see that all our CloudStack >>> resource owner field is an account, since that is the only information >>> used for controlling whether you have some permissions to the resource. >>> Thanks >>> -min >>> >>> On 11/14/14 12:53 AM, "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> All CloudStack DB entities (VM, storage, network etc.) have an owner >>>> field which is mostly the account. An account can have multiple users >>>> so >>>> just by looking at the resource (say VM) it¹s not possible to make out >>>> which user in the account (owner or account_id field in the db row of >>>> the >>>> entity) created it. CloudStack users may want to know this information >>>> for at least entities such as VMs and Volumes. >>>> >>>> Historically, why is the account owner of an entity and not a user? If >>>> user were the owner, we could easily get the account Id using the user >>>> Id. >>>> >>>> One solution to fix this problem is to refactor and replace Account >>>> (interface) usage with UserAccount (interface) usage, fix the DAO and >>>> resource layer, and add columns in the schema. This gets us all the >>>> information we need to determine domainId, AccountId and Id (the user >>>> ID). 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