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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 22 July 2014 14:46
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] *LET'S ABANDON 4.4*
> 
> Sebastien, this is not about git. And the last RC did not get any vote. It got
> one problem reported which turned out to be a user error.
> I repeat: No vote at all.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > -1 on abandoning 4.4
> >
> > If you are not getting VOTEs, ping the private@ and ask PMCs to vote, you
> only need 3 pmc vote to release.
> >
> > I am inundating by emails and did not even see the new VOTE thread, I left
> it as the last VOTE that got -1 within 24 hours.
> >
> >
> > As to why this is happening, I expressed my thoughts in a thread about git
> flow. Folks don't seem to be interested.
> >
> > Test no test, ci no ci, coverity no coverity, if we don't fix our git flow 
> > we will
> never release on-time.
> >
> > -sebastien
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 22, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Donal Lafferty <donal.laffe...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> It might help to ask what's stopping people from voting.
> >>
> >> It would seem the correct approach is to only vote for an RC if you've
> been part of the QA process either formally by having overseen the build
> validation infrastructure or informally by having installed the RC and run
> some tests.
> >>
> >> Perhaps this is too difficult.
> >>
> >> DL
> >>
> >> PS.  Tempted to flame?  See
> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham's_Law
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: 22 July 2014 10:15
> >>> To: dev
> >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] *LET'S ABANDON 4.4*
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Wido den Hollander
> >>> <w...@widodh.nl>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On 07/22/2014 08:28 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had no vote's on the last release candidate. I move we abandon
> >>>>> releasing 4.4 or stop releasing at all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> So this is not a good thing. Honestly, yes, I didn't vote, I'm
> >>>> truly sorry for that, but didn't I see other votes come along?
> >>> This was not a personal attack on you or anybody. I must apologize
> >>> for sending it.
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>>> I saw a vote being abandoned due to a bad quorum, right?
> >>> yes, that is the source for my sarcasm. I felt sorry as I sent it.
> >>> the reason of my frustration is a very bad sign though.
> >>>
> >>> I have been thinking if this is a +1/0/-1 on my job as RM and I
> >>> don't know. I do know that I wouldn't have minded a -1 as much as not
> knowing.
> >>>
> >>> I will not abandon this work just yet but I have to threaten you all
> >>> that I this is the way to make me contemplate so.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Daan
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Daan

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