On Jul 22, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sebastien, this is not about git. And the last RC did not get any > vote. It got one problem reported which turned out to be a user error. > I repeat: No vote at all. > If you think that's the problem, then you keep the VOTE open until you get enough votes to make a decision. Nothing mandates us to close a vote, you can keep it open. Then as RM you go and find the votes -sebastien > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> wrote: >> -1 on abandoning 4.4 >> >> If you are not getting VOTEs, ping the private@ and ask PMCs to vote, you >> only need 3 pmc vote to release. >> >> I am inundating by emails and did not even see the new VOTE thread, I left >> it as the last VOTE that got -1 within 24 hours. >> >> >> As to why this is happening, I expressed my thoughts in a thread about git >> flow. Folks don't seem to be interested. >> >> Test no test, ci no ci, coverity no coverity, if we don't fix our git flow >> we will never release on-time. >> >> -sebastien >> >> >> >> On Jul 22, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Donal Lafferty <donal.laffe...@citrix.com> >> wrote: >> >>> It might help to ask what's stopping people from voting. >>> >>> It would seem the correct approach is to only vote for an RC if you've been >>> part of the QA process either formally by having overseen the build >>> validation infrastructure or informally by having installed the RC and run >>> some tests. >>> >>> Perhaps this is too difficult. >>> >>> DL >>> >>> PS. Tempted to flame? See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham's_Law >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: 22 July 2014 10:15 >>>> To: dev >>>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] *LET'S ABANDON 4.4* >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 07/22/2014 08:28 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I had no vote's on the last release candidate. I move we abandon >>>>>> releasing 4.4 or stop releasing at all. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So this is not a good thing. Honestly, yes, I didn't vote, I'm truly >>>>> sorry for that, but didn't I see other votes come along? >>>> This was not a personal attack on you or anybody. I must apologize for >>>> sending it. >>>> >>>> ... >>>>> I saw a vote being abandoned due to a bad quorum, right? >>>> yes, that is the source for my sarcasm. I felt sorry as I sent it. the >>>> reason of >>>> my frustration is a very bad sign though. >>>> >>>> I have been thinking if this is a +1/0/-1 on my job as RM and I don't >>>> know. I do >>>> know that I wouldn't have minded a -1 as much as not knowing. >>>> >>>> I will not abandon this work just yet but I have to threaten you all that >>>> I this is >>>> the way to make me contemplate so. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Daan >> > > > > -- > Daan
