Hugo,

Felton is release name in citrix.  I think Santhosh meant 4.4.

--Alex

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trippie [mailto:trip...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Hugo Trippaers
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:35 AM
> To: <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: developers and mysql
> 
> We don't need to do anything for upgrade testing, in the release this feature
> is disabled, so there will be no issues when upgrading a stock release.
> 
> However it might be worth mentioning that if the admin switched to the HA
> procedure he should either disable this before upgrading or make sure he
> uses the noredist build when upgrading.
> 
> I'm not familiar with "felton", what is that?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Hugo
> 
> 
> 
> On 27 feb. 2014, at 10:02, Santhosh Edukulla <santhosh.eduku...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Does this all warrant a process sign off of upgrade testing? HA working in
> production and upgrading to felton with changes below?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Santhosh
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Trippie [trip...@gmail.com] on behalf of Hugo Trippaers
> > [h...@trippaers.nl]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:51 AM
> > To: <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: developers and mysql
> >
> > Done
> >
> > commit a0f932437c9ac9a0a82cc9b45b1aa6f17e8a478a
> > Author: Hugo Trippaers <htrippa...@schubergphilis.com>
> > Date:   Thu Feb 27 09:48:55 2014 +0100
> >
> >    Move mysql ha strategy to a plugin. Activate this plugin using the
> > mysqlha profile or the noredist flag
> >
> >
> >
> > On 27 feb. 2014, at 09:25, Hugo Trippaers <trip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 27 feb. 2014, at 09:09, Alex Huang <alex.hu...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Abhi,
> >>>
> >>> It's not licensing issue that troubles me.  It's the fact that mysql's 
> >>> been
> made a compile dependency when it wasn't before.  It encourages people to
> adopt more mysql functionality into the cloudstack code.  Eventually that
> means we get more and more tied in with mysql once the trend has started.
> >>
> >> Agreed, that is a risk. We need to keep paying attention that new
> additions don't introduce something we are not comfortable with. We
> maybe could make a jenkins check that will alert if the dependency list
> changes from a previous compile. Should be possible with a little creative
> scripting.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I would prefer the entire file is not in CloudStack as it really has 
> >>> nothing
> to do with CloudStack itself.  But, I'm fine with Hugo suggestion of this 
> being
> put into pluginin enabled by noredist and mysql is only dependent upon in
> that plugin's pom.xml.
> >>
> >> My reasoning here is that somebody took the time and effort to write
> something to either improve cloudstack or fix a problem. We should try to
> include this if we reasonably can, every contribution is valuable. That said i
> would be curious to know if anyone is relying on this at the moment.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> --Alex
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com]
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:54 PM
> >>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; Damoder Reddy
> >>>> Subject: Re: developers and mysql
> >>>>
> >>>> Immediately if there are no specific licensing issues we should
> >>>> maintain the status-quo.
> >>>> The fact is that some other HA solutions will not work as all the
> >>>> schema related scripts are mysql engine specific.
> >>>>
> >>>> When we decide to move the mysql dependency out of cloudstack we
> >>>> should do it for all such dependencies.
> >>>> If there is an agreement here we can file a ticket to track this.
> >>>>
> >>>> -abhi
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 27/02/14 11:16 am, "Abhinandan Prateek"
> >>>> <abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> StaticStrategy is overriding the Mysql¹s HA Strategy. So it is
> >>>>> more a part of the mysql jdbc driver providing a specific strategy
> >>>>> that works as per the documented HA procedure.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think moving it to a separate github project that generates the
> >>>>> additional mysql connector jar should be ok (any licensing issues).
> >>>>> We can then document that anyone configuring DB-HA as per the
> >>>> suggested
> >>>>> procedure should download this and add it to the classpath.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -abhi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 27/02/14 10:54 am, "Alex Huang" <alex.hu...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Damoder,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't think I follow.  There's clearly compile dependency on
> >>>>>> mysql in StaticStrategy.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To me, when I look at StaticStartegy, it makes sense to move that
> >>>>>> into separate project in github and reference people to it if
> >>>>>> they want to use the specific setup outlined in the DB HA wiki.
> >>>>>> That to me would make it a runtime dependency only.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --Alex
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Damoder Reddy
> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:20 PM
> >>>>>>> To: Alex Huang; dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: developers and mysql
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Alex,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The mysql dependency is on for only " StaticStrategy.java" as
> >>>>>>> mentioned by you. And this is not used anywhere in the code base
> >>>>>>> as a compile time dependency rather used as a run time
> >>>>>>> dependency in db.properties. this will be passed to mysql driver
> >>>>>>> as part of mysql Database  URL construction.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This StaticStrategy.java will become mute if we move out of
> >>>>>>> mysql driver as it  has only runtime dependency.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
> >>>>>>> Damodar/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Alex Huang
> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:13 AM
> >>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>>>> Cc: Damoder Reddy
> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: developers and mysql
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> @Hugo
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The mysql scripts is a legacy of we used to dump the mysql db to
> >>>>>>> create the  create-schema sql but it is at worst still a runtime
> >>>>>>> dependency.  We should fix  it but I don't think it's as high a
> >>>>>>> priority as the compile time dependency that  has been introduced.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> @Damoder,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Can you take a look at StaticStrategy.java?  This is the only
> >>>>>>> file that requires  mysql but I couldn't find anywhere in the
> >>>>>>> code that references this class.  I  then looked at the bug and
> >>>>>>> wiki and it also doesn't mentioned that  dependency on mysql has
> >>>>>>> been added.  It doesn't make sense for  CloudStack to include this
> automatically.
> >>>>>>> There are many ways to provide DB  HA and incorporate it into
> >>>>>>> our code just limits the possibilities.  We can for  example
> >>>>>>> document this as a way to do it in on the wiki for example but I
> >>>>>>> just  don't see why we would use code to limit it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --Alex
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Hugo Trippaers [mailto:trip...@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:02 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>>>>> Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: developers and mysql
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We are already pretty much locked in as all our database
> >>>>>>>> scripts are MySQL specific. If we want to be neutral we should fix
> that.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hugo
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 25 feb. 2014, at 22:57, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> git blame showed that it came from the HA/replication work
> >>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>> Damoder.
> >>>>>>>>> I didn't speak up at the time, but I am really reluctant for
> >>>>>>>>> mysql-specific features to sneak in and lock us in.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Alex Huang
> >>>>>>> <alex.hu...@citrix.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Who added the dependency on mysql for framework-db?  We
> >>>>>>>>>> actually
> >>>>>>>> worked hard to keep that depending on jdbc only.  It should not
> >>>>>>> depend
> >>>>>>>> on mysql.  We need to fix that.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --Alex
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Trippie [mailto:trip...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Hugo
> >>>>>>>>>>> Trippaers
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:34 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: developers and mysql
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Heya,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Just pushed a change that will make the database work again.
> >>>>>>>>>>> :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> @Alex. The mysql jar used to be pulled in as a dependency
> >>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>> framework- db. As the client target is responsible for
> >>>>>>>>>>> building the war file for the packages including this in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> client pom would also put it in the war file and in the packages.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I think i have an elegant solution, its now included as a
> >>>>>>>>>>> dependency for both the database deploy and the jetty:run
> target.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Which makes it effectively a "provided" library for the
> >>>>>>>>>>> purpose
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> our maven build. See commit
> >>>>>>>>>>> 8e6b86ae23dce802044388c5420ff61511d7115b and
> >>>>>>> e883877c7a6f9df04b572afd4ee5f10d265bcc3a.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I can deploy a database and start the jetty:run target now
> >>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>>> any trouble (at least not more trouble than usual ;-) )
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> My next step is to clean up some of the dependencies. I
> >>>>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> only cloud-framework-db should have a provided
> dependency on
> >>>>>>> mysql.
> >>>>>>>>>>> It's the only piece of source code that actually needs the
> >>>>>>>>>>> mysql driver to be present during compilation for the
> >>>>>>>>>>> optional HA configuration. There are some test classes that
> >>>>>>>>>>> depend on
> >>>>>>> database
> >>>>>>>>>>> functionally but those should be moved to an integration
> >>>>>>>>>>> test profile that could include the database driver, those
> >>>>>>>>>>> tests are disabled
> >>>>>>>> anyway so they don't cause any trouble now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hugo
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 feb. 2014, at 06:39, Rajani Karuturi
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <rajani.karut...@citrix.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can we move the mysql-connector-java dependency to the
> >>>> parent
> >>>>>>>>>>> POM(SOURCE-ROOT/pom.xml) and define it different scopes
> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> each
> >>>>>>>> profile?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ie)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <profile>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <id>developer</id>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <dependencies>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>    <dependency>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>      <groupId>mysql</groupId>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>      <artifactId>mysql-connector-java</artifactId>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>      <scope>compile</scope>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>    </dependency>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> </dependencies>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> </profile>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <profile>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <id>production</id>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <dependencies>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>    <dependency>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>      <groupId>mysql</groupId>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>      <artifactId>mysql-connector-java</artifactId>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>      <scope>provided</scope>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>    </dependency>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> </dependencies>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> </profile>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ~Rajani
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 24-Feb-2014, at 11:41 pm, Hugo Trippaers
> >>>>>>>>>>> <trip...@gmail.com<mailto:trip...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've been fighting with maven all day to get the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> development profile to include MySql. No luck yet, will
> >>>>>>>>>>>> give it another shot tomorrow :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hugo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 feb. 2014, at 18:21, David Nalley
> >>>>>>>>>>> <da...@gnsa.us<mailto:da...@gnsa.us>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So it should be ok to include the jar in non-default builds.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> developer and deploydb are not what we'd expect a normal
> >>>>>>>>>>>> user to
> >>>>>>>> consume.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (Anyone else's head spinning?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:44 AM, John Kinsella
> >>>>>>>>>>> <j...@stratosec.co<mailto:j...@stratosec.co>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I created CLOUDSTACK-6157 over the weekend to track this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure
> >>>>>>>>>>> adding the jar after compile will help the deploydb target,
> >>>>>>>>>>> but will give it a try this morning.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Could we set up the pom.xmls to use the jar for execution
> >>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> found in
> >>>>>>>>>>> the user/system classpaths while respecting the legal
> >>>>>>> requirements?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rayees' suggestion for cloud.spec makes sense for the RPM
> >>>>>>> builds,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't affect the developer issues.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -He who needs more maven experience
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Hugo Trippaers
> >>>>>>>>>>> <h...@trippaers.nl<mailto:h...@trippaers.nl>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Heya,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> as the mysql dependency is now set to provided in all the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> poms
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> fix our
> >>>>>>>>>>> license compliancy the jetty target and the deployed targets
> >>>>>>>>>>> are not
> >>>>>>>> working.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to configure an optional profile to enable those
> >>>>>>>>>>>> targets to include
> >>>>>>>>>>> the mysql dependency while executing, but so far no luck. If
> >>>>>>>>>>> anyone has some bright ideas on how to do this i'm all ears.
> >>>>>>>>>>> In the meantime the best solutions i've found to continue
> >>>>>>>>>>> working is to copy the mysql jar file into the directory
> >>>>>>>>>>> client/target/cloud-client-ui-4.4.0-SNAPSHOT/WEB-INF/lib/ by
> >>>>>>>>>>> hand after running mvm install and before running the jetty
> >>>>>>>>>>> target (just don't
> >>>>>>>> run mvn clean).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully a better solution in the near future.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hugo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >

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