I agree - announcing a release prior to docs availability hurts the
project because users fail in installation and upgrades.
The gate in my mind is docs readiness - thats an integral part of the
release process, even if the repo is separate.

Animesh, whats your reason to want to push this out earlier?

--David

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Chip Childers <chipchild...@apache.org> wrote:
> Except that the separation only helps if it allows RC testing + voting
> during doc finalization.  If we announce before docs, it hurts us.
> I'm against another announcement that goes out with the docs in poor
> shape.
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> <animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> Unless there are objection to the RC, I would prefer to have it released and 
>> make the announcement sooner and showcase in collab conference. As Chip 
>> mentions docs were broken out separately anyway.
>>
>> Animesh
>>
>>
>> On 14/11/13 8:12 pm, "Sebastien Goasguen" <run...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Anyway we can wait next week to release.
>>>
>>>quite a few of us will be together in Amsterdam, we can dedicate a
>>>hackathon session to 4.2.1 , make sure RN are good, upgrade path
>>>etcŠthen testŠ.
>>>
>>>I'd recommend keeping the vote open until then.
>>>
>>>-sebastien
>>>
>>>
>>>On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath
>>><radhika.puthiyet...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The master has the most up-to-date RN for 4.2.1.
>>>>
>>>> From: Abhinandan Prateek
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:22 PM
>>>> To: CloudStack Dev
>>>> Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath
>>>> Subject: Re: [ASF4.2.1] Release Notes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems the upgrade section of release notes will require a review,
>>>>probably followed by a revamp (?).
>>>> Can we have some volunteers who are familiar with various upgrade
>>>>paths comment on it ?
>>>> Me and Radhika will try to consolidate those comments, snippets and
>>>>fix the RN for 4.2.1.
>>>>
>>>> -abhi
>>>>
>>>> RN for 4.2.1 =
>>>>https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack-docs.git;a=tree;f
>>>>=re
>>>>lease-notes;h=8128d62c39236331492f3642914bf97b43ed2670;hb=refs/heads/4
>>>>.2
>>>>
>>>
>>

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