On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 06:45:39AM +0000, Animesh Chaturvedi wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mull...@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 5:40 PM
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; Edison Su
> > Subject: Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in
> > 4.2?
> > 
> > I've been watching from the outside and tracking the entire discussion,
> > and with what has happened with the delays with 4.0 and 4.1 am worried
> > that this could be come the next delayer to the release of 4.2. At the
> > same time, I'm very much in agreement with David N., Chip and John B.
> > that we can't just drop a feature because it hasn't been attiquately
> > tested in that past releases.
> > 
> > My observations -
> > 1. There is not a quick fix here.
> > 2. We don't know who can do it.
> > 3. We're not sure how to do it properly
> > 4. Currently we can't even agree on whether we go with the original
> > version or the newer one.
> > 5. We can't validate user base immediate need and requirement for the
> > feature.
> > 6. We're stuck in Analysis paralysis!
> > 
> > Conclusion - If we don't get past these in short order we are going to
> > jeopardize 4.2 timely release.
> > 
> > Suggestion:
> > Based off my work with other (corporate) software releases, if we can't
> > validate the immediate need, we don't know the immediate fix, and we
> > don't have the right people to do it should we slate this for 4.2.1 and
> > lower this to a Major for 4.2? We don't delay a major release, and at
> > the same time we dedicate ourselves to not stranding a user. We need to
> > do this, but at this point we need to do it right for that user base
> > too.
> > 
> > We work to fix the previous version and we work to support new versions.
> > We get the right resources in to assist, and we make it an immediate
> > priority to address. If we can fix and test properly before the cut of
> > 4.2, WONDERFUL! If not, then it doesn't block the release, but it goes
> > out with 4.2.1 asap.
> > 
> > So there's my ramblings. How far off base am I? :-)
> > 
> > Ready, setÅ  fire!
> > Matt
> > 
> [Animesh>] Mathias thanks for a detailed and clear description. I agree if we 
> can fix it fine but if not it should not block 4.2. Given that we are 3 weeks 
> away from code freeze any uncertainties either needs to be addressed or we 
> need to defer them.

Based on CLOUDSTACK-3350, we have a known user.  IMO, this should be a
blocker.  We should either fix Swift to support users or revert the object
store branch merge changes.

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