+1 to CASSDRIVER-JAVA et al.

> On Oct 17, 2024, at 10:37 AM, Jon Haddad <j...@rustyrazorblade.com> wrote:
> 
> Sgtm, let’s ship it
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 4:09 AM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Nobody wants to suggest a color for this bikeshed?  I'll start:
>> CASSDRIVER-<language>. I'd like to get on this sooner than later since
>> during the time we wait the situation worsens.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Brandon
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 5:07 PM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:dri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I think we just need to ask infra to create the jira instances, but I
>> > guess we need to have some kind of consistent naming scheme to help
>> > identify them?
>> >
>> > Kind Regards,
>> > Brandon
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:02 PM Francisco Guerrero <fran...@apache.org 
>> > <mailto:fran...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > +1 too on the points brought by Mick, we need more visibility into
>> > > subprojects. For starters, we should look into integrating Qbot
>> > > notifications in #cassandra-dev and #cassandra-noise for
>> > > CASSANDRASC tickets. Let me know if I can help with that.
>> > >
>> > > On 2024/10/02 17:39:28 Yifan Cai wrote:
>> > > > +1 on all the points raised by Mick. Please let me know if there is
>> > > > anything I can help with.
>> > > >
>> > > > - Yifan
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 8:13 AM Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org 
>> > > > <mailto:jmcken...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and #cassandra-noise , as 
>> > > > > well as
>> > > > > in any subproject channels
>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on activities, or dependency
>> > > > > changes, etc
>> > > > > - regular releases
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Agree on all 3 points. Also - I've *definitely* fallen off on the 
>> > > > > project
>> > > > > updates for mainline; I'll pick that back up after ApacheCon.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, at 1:57 AM, Mick Semb Wever wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > To play devil's advocate here, it's important that the subprojects 
>> > > > > don't
>> > > > > lose visibility and silo from the rest of the project.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There are different ways to solve this, and lumping everything into 
>> > > > > one
>> > > > > jira project is a messy and poor way of doing it.  But as the 
>> > > > > sidecar has
>> > > > > shown us, subproject activity should somehow be made noisy to us.  
>> > > > > We need
>> > > > > sorts of common spaces in the project.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If we go the separate jira project route, then some suggestions to 
>> > > > > help
>> > > > > with this are:
>> > > > > - Qbot notifications in #cassandra-dev and #cassandra-noise , as 
>> > > > > well as
>> > > > > in any subproject channels
>> > > > > - some cadence of dev@ ML updates, e.g. on activities, or dependency
>> > > > > changes, etc
>> > > > > - regular releases
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 04:11, Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org 
>> > > > > <mailto:djo...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > hi folks - sorry to have dropped the ball on responding to this 
>> > > > > thread.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > My 2 cents are as follows -
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 1. Having a separate JIRA project for each sub-project will add 
>> > > > > management
>> > > > > overhead. This option, however, allows us to model unique workflows 
>> > > > > for the
>> > > > > sub-project.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2. Managing the sub-project as part of the Cassandra JIRA project 
>> > > > > would
>> > > > > imply less management overhead but the sub-project would need to 
>> > > > > conform to
>> > > > > the same workflows.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I would pick option 1 unless there is a strong reason and desire to 
>> > > > > manage
>> > > > > a separate Jira project. We can always split out the Java Driver 
>> > > > > project if
>> > > > > things don't work out. OTOH merging a Jira project is harder.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Dinesh
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 12:45 PM Abe Ratnofsky <a...@aber.io 
>> > > > > <mailto:a...@aber.io>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > CEP-8 proposes using separate Jira projects per Cassandra 
>> > > > > sub-project:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-8%3A+DataStax+Drivers+Donation
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > We suggest distinct Jira projects, one per driver, all to be 
>> > > > > > created.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I don't see any discussion changing that from the [DISCUSS] or vote
>> > > > > threads:
>> > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/01pljcncyjyo467l5orh8nf9okrh7oxm
>> > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/opt630do09phh7hlt28odztxdv6g58dp
>> > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/crolkrhd4y6tt3k4hsy204xomshlcp4p
>> > > > >
>> > > > > But looks like upon acceptance that was changed:
>> > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/dhov01s8dvvh3882oxhkmmfv4tqdd68o
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > New issues will be tracked under the CASSANDRA project on Apache’s 
>> > > > > > JIRA <
>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/CASSANDRA> under the 
>> > > > > component
>> > > > > ‘Client/java-driver’.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'm in favor of using the same Jira as Cassandra proper. 
>> > > > > Committership is
>> > > > > project-wide, so having a standardized process (same ticket flow, 
>> > > > > review
>> > > > > rules, labels, etc. is beneficial). But multiple votes happened 
>> > > > > based on
>> > > > > the content of the CEP, so we should stick to what was voted on and 
>> > > > > move to
>> > > > > a separate Jira.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Abe
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >

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