Alex can confirm but I think it actually turns out to be a new bug in 5.0, but 
either way we should not cut a release with such a serious potential known 
issue.

> On 4 Nov 2023, at 16:18, J. D. Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like 18993 is not a regression in 5.0? But present in 4.1 as well?  
> So I would say we should fix it with the highest priority and get a new 4.1.x 
> released. Blocking 5.0 beta voting is a secondary issue to me if we have a 
> “data not being returned” issue in an existing release?
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Benedict <bened...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I think before we cut a beta we need to have diagnosed and fixed 18993 
>> (assuming it is a bug).
>> 
>>>> On 4 Nov 2023, at 16:04, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> With the publication of this release I would like to switch the
>>>> default 'latest' docs on the website from 4.1 to 5.0.  Are there any
>>>> objections to this ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would also like to propose the next 5.0 release to be 5.0-beta1
>>> 
>>> With the aim of reaching GA for the Summit, I would like to suggest we
>>> work towards the best-case scenario of 5.0-beta1 in two weeks and
>>> 5.0-rc1 first week Dec.
>>> 
>>> I know this is a huge ask with lots of unknowns we can't actually
>>> commit to.  But I believe it is a worthy goal, and possible if nothing
>>> sideswipes us – but we'll need all the help we can get this month to
>>> make it happen.
>> 

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