Sounds like 18993 is not a regression in 5.0? But present in 4.1 as well?  So I 
would say we should fix it with the highest priority and get a new 4.1.x 
released. Blocking 5.0 beta voting is a secondary issue to me if we have a 
“data not being returned” issue in an existing release?

> On Nov 4, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Benedict <bened...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> I think before we cut a beta we need to have diagnosed and fixed 18993 
> (assuming it is a bug).
> 
>> On 4 Nov 2023, at 16:04, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> With the publication of this release I would like to switch the
>>> default 'latest' docs on the website from 4.1 to 5.0.  Are there any
>>> objections to this ?
>> 
>> 
>> I would also like to propose the next 5.0 release to be 5.0-beta1
>> 
>> With the aim of reaching GA for the Summit, I would like to suggest we
>> work towards the best-case scenario of 5.0-beta1 in two weeks and
>> 5.0-rc1 first week Dec.
>> 
>> I know this is a huge ask with lots of unknowns we can't actually
>> commit to.  But I believe it is a worthy goal, and possible if nothing
>> sideswipes us – but we'll need all the help we can get this month to
>> make it happen.
> 

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