This is my feeling too, but I think we should accomplish this by
deprecating it first.  I don't expect anything will change after the
deprecation period.

Kind Regards,
Brandon

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 11:09 AM Jacek Lewandowski
<lewandowski.ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I vote for removing it entirely.
>
> thanks
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> czw., 9 mar 2023 o 18:07 Miklosovic, Stefan <stefan.mikloso...@netapp.com> 
> napisał(a):
>>
>> Derek,
>>
>> I have couple more points ... I do not think that extracting it to a 
>> separate repository is "win". That code is on Hadoop 1.0.3. We would be 
>> spending a lot of work on extracting it just to extract 10 years old code 
>> with occasional updates (in my humble opinion just to make it compilable 
>> again if the code around changes). What good is in that? We would have one 
>> more place to take care of ... Now we at least have it all in one place.
>>
>> I believe we have four options:
>>
>> 1) leave it there so it will be like this is for next years with 
>> questionable and diminishing usage
>> 2) update it to Hadoop 3.3 (I wonder who is going to do that)
>> 3) 2) and extract it to a separate repository but if we do 2) we can just 
>> leave it there
>> 4) remove it
>>
>> ________________________________________
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>> Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 15:55
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>> Subject: Re: Role of Hadoop code in Cassandra 5.0
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>> I think the question isn't "Who ... is still using that?" but more "are we 
>> actually going to support it?" If we're on a version that old it would 
>> appear that we've basically abandoned it, although there do appear to have 
>> been refactoring (for other things) commits in the last couple of years. I 
>> would be in favor of removal from 5.0, but at the very least, could it be 
>> moved into a separate repo/package so that it's not pulling a relatively 
>> large dependency subtree from Hadoop into our main codebase?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Derek
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 6:44 AM Miklosovic, Stefan 
>> <stefan.mikloso...@netapp.com<mailto:stefan.mikloso...@netapp.com>> wrote:
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I stumbled upon Hadoop package again. I think there was some discussion 
>> about the relevancy of Hadoop code some time ago but I would like to ask 
>> this again.
>>
>> Do you think Hadoop code (1) is still relevant in 5.0? Who in the industry 
>> is still using that?
>>
>> We might drop a lot of code and some Hadoop dependencies too (3) (even their 
>> scope is "provided"). The version of Hadoop we build upon is 1.0.3 which was 
>> released 10 years ago. This code does not have any tests nor documentation 
>> on the website.
>>
>> There seems to be issues like this (2) and it seems like the solution is to, 
>> basically, use Spark Cassandra connector instead which I would say is quite 
>> reasonable.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> (1) 
>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/tree/trunk/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/hadoop
>> (2) https://lists.apache.org/thread/jdy5hdc2l7l29h04dqol5ylroqos1y2p
>> (3) 
>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/trunk/.build/parent-pom-template.xml#L507-L589
>>
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