I see no problem with continuing to add JMX commands for the foreseeable future.
> On Jul 15, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Stefan Miklosovic > <stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com> wrote: > > Can I have a clear response from you, community, if my work on 16725 > is rendered totally useless in the light of this discussion? The time > on that was already spent and I honestly can not see why it would be a > problem to merge that command in. > > I am particularly objecting to Paulo's idea about dropping JMX command > implementations altogether, I find it quite radical without any > meaningful justification except "wasting somebody's time" but since it > is my time I spent on this, I am not sure why anybody would care? > While I do understand that we are trying to move forward with cql and > so on, I find it quite ridiculous to stop "5 minutes before 12" just > because somebody happened to drop an email to the dev list about this > before I managed to finish it. > > In other words, I find it just easier to finish it and voila, we can > query audit's config, when we are super close to it and all who spend > time on that was me - rather than waiting for weeks and months until > this discussion settles, living without that until then. > > Regards > >> On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 at 20:38, J. D. Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I also am in favor of continuing to support nodetool in parallel with >> developing a command line tool and associated virtual tables to replace >> nodetool/JMX at some point in the future. >> I don’t think “native transport is not currently available during startup” >> is something to halt progress towards this goal. There are many ways to >> change the system to make that a non-problem. But it is something to >> remember while moving towards the goal of node management without using JMX. >> >> -Jeremiah >> >>>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 12:21 PM, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What is your opinion on this? >>>> >>> >>> >>> This discussion was touched when implementing Diagnostics Events, at least >>> the discussion of JMX vs native (rather than nodetool vs cqlsh). At that >>> time JMX was chosen because there was no way for a client to specify the >>> host you wanted the information from. Some more info in CASSANDRA-13459 >>> and CASSANDRA-13472. >>> >>> The java and python drivers have since added this functionality. But if >>> it's not widely adopted by all the drivers, and the functionality may have >>> programmatic uses, this can be problematic. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org