Can I have a clear response from you, community, if my work on 16725
is rendered totally useless in the light of this discussion? The time
on that was already spent and I honestly can not see why it would be a
problem to merge that command in.

I am particularly objecting to Paulo's idea about dropping JMX command
implementations altogether, I find it quite radical without any
meaningful justification except "wasting somebody's time" but since it
is my time I spent on this, I am not sure why anybody would care?
While I do understand that we are trying to move forward with cql and
so on, I find it quite ridiculous to stop "5 minutes before 12" just
because somebody happened to drop an email to the dev list about this
before I managed to finish it.

In other words, I find it just easier to finish it and voila, we can
query audit's config, when we are super close to it and all who spend
time on that was me - rather than waiting for weeks and months until
this discussion settles, living without that until then.

Regards

On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 at 20:38, J. D. Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I also am in favor of continuing to support nodetool in parallel with 
> developing a command line tool and associated virtual tables to replace 
> nodetool/JMX at some point in the future.
> I don’t think “native transport is not currently available during startup” is 
> something to halt progress towards this goal. There are many ways to change 
> the system to make that a non-problem.  But it is something to remember while 
> moving towards the goal of node management without using JMX.
>
> -Jeremiah
>
> > On Jul 15, 2021, at 12:21 PM, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What is your opinion on this?
> >>
> >
> >
> > This discussion was touched when implementing Diagnostics Events, at least
> > the discussion of JMX vs native (rather than nodetool vs cqlsh).  At that
> > time JMX was chosen because there was no way for a client to specify the
> > host you wanted the information from. Some more info in CASSANDRA-13459
> > and CASSANDRA-13472.
> >
> > The java and python drivers have since added this functionality. But if
> > it's not widely adopted by all the drivers, and the functionality may have
> > programmatic uses, this can be problematic.
>
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