I would be sad to see us drop this just because it's a hard discussion with
a few different opinions. My apologies if this discussion is making folks
feel excluded.

Whilst I don't have a problem with a strict approach and it does improve
user clarity. I can understand how it might feel exclusionary. Having
classifications can make the tent bigger and allow for things that are API
compatible to be celebrated (the owners of some of the API compatible
offerings make significant contributions to the community and I would love
for them to be on the list).

Having some classification would better allow us to celebrate the different
offerings in the community and be more inclusive without misrepresenting
things to our users and making it easy to meet our obligations around how
we talk about Apache trademarks.

Part of demonstrating the health of the project is to talk about the
broader ecosystem around it.  Most other communities can seem to maintain
an ecosystem list that is fairly broad.

E.g.
Apache Kafka -> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Ecosystem
- Maintains a set of groupings and listings. Also listed projects could be
considered quite competitive.
Apache Spark -> A simple list of folk who use or do something with spark
https://spark.apache.org/powered-by.html
Apache Samza -> Again a simple list
http://samza.incubator.apache.org/powered-by/

Outside of the Apache landscape. The Postgres folk also simply have a list
of derived or adjacent PG databases which is kinda cool
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_derived_databases.

Personally I think including the "API compatible offerings" is fine and
further demonstrates the power and reach of our community. For the
commercial vendors out there we have our marketing budgets and will do fine
(as Patrick said), but I would hate to see an opportunity to demonstrate
the breadth and depth of our community be missed.

As demonstrated with some of the above links, there should be a good
inclusive solution out there.


On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 2:33 PM Erick Ramirez <erick.rami...@datastax.com>
wrote:

> >
> > And I'm thinking of anyone that has to update this list and reason
> through
> > all of the complex rulesets of why or why not, It's really not fair to
> > them.
>
> My proposal is that we completely drop the Cassandra Cloud Offereing
> > section.
> > Given that criteria, Professional Support and Education might be on the
> > chopping
> > block as well.
> >
>
> +1 would definitely make my life easier when I'm reviewing/pushing updates
> to the site. 🍻
>


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